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fielding88 said:
Nem said:

Man... you are full of it. You act like this is something new that no one has adressed before. Maybe it is the first time you are thinking about this, but it isn't for me. 

I agree, its impossible to have a debate because all you guys come up with is personal attacks and not actual arguments. I have explained why i think they are duped. They are ill informed and easy going. If you have the full facts and full sense you would know that what Sony and Microsoft are doing isn't right and it's just corporate greed.

But alas, i agree that a discussion isn't to be had when someone have their head so far into it they don't care to look around anymore. I mean the qestions you guys as me: Would it change your opinion if Nintendo did it? Why should it? What makes one thing that it can unless they kniw they themselves aren't beeing honest. That is enough of a picture there. Carry on thinking you're full of reason. I don't care to convince those that don't want to listen nor bothered to give it the due thought.

Honest question here: what are these full facts you speak of? Are there numbers to go on that state that the online paywall is all a scam? I'm Googling it but can't find anything solid.

OT: I've been paying for PS Plus for maybe four years now, and the free games have been great for me. I think early on, the majority of games on my Vita were from plus, and it got me engaging with the online store much more and gave me a reason to never discontinue use of my Vita or PS3. And I actually enjoy Powers. As far as comic book TV shows go, it feels miles above anything on the CW but lower than anything on Netflix. So I've definitely gotten my money's worth without being an online gamer.

The costs for mantaining servers are extremely low today and can be covered by the physical sales. This only becomes a problem with heavy traffic, aka the more hardcore online players. What the paywall does is make everyone pay the same for different useages to justify the excessive use. This ofc also affects how active in the long run online communities can be.

That is why i say what i do. But apparantly is causes alot of disconfort.

What i have also said is that if you got it for the games its fine. The service is worth that (if you find them worth it). But the paywall wich is used behind the online gaming acess does not in fact benefit anyone but Sony's financials. It doesn't benefit the games nor the consumers. It's a way to fish people into the service even though it doesn't benefit anyone. The online games's service detiorate's faster because the pool is smaller than it could be. Thing like longer queues and servers closed after a year or two due to inactivity, for example.