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Nem said:
SWORDF1SH said:

I don't think he's going to change his mind. There's actually a serious discussion that could be had with paid and free online but you're not going to get it with one track minds. There are some parts that I can see his point but it's just wrapped up in his own bs.

Man... you are full of it. You act like this is something new that no one has adressed before. Maybe it is the first time you are thinking about this, but it isn't for me. 

I agree, its impossible to have a debate because all you guys come up with is personal attacks and not actual arguments. I have explained why i think they are duped. They are ill informed and easy going. If you have the full facts and full sense you would know that what Sony and Microsoft are doing isn't right and it's just corporate greed.

But alas, i agree that a discussion isn't to be had when someone have their head so far into it they don't care to look around anymore. I mean the qestions you guys as me: Would it change your opinion if Nintendo did it? Why should it? What makes one thing that it can unless they kniw they themselves aren't beeing honest. That is enough of a picture there. Carry on thinking you're full of reason. I don't care to convince those that don't want to listen nor bothered to give it the due thought.

Honest question here: what are these full facts you speak of? Are there numbers to go on that state that the online paywall is all a scam? I'm Googling it but can't find anything solid.

OT: I've been paying for PS Plus for maybe four years now, and the free games have been great for me. I think early on, the majority of games on my Vita were from plus, and it got me engaging with the online store much more and gave me a reason to never discontinue use of my Vita or PS3. And I actually enjoy Powers. As far as comic book TV shows go, it feels miles above anything on the CW but lower than anything on Netflix. So I've definitely gotten my money's worth without being an online gamer.