Suikoden IV was a poor entry on my favorite series, "too much water" was only one of its many problems. Still, compared to most JRPGs of the 7th gen its a decent game. I don't even want to talk about Suikoden Tierkreis.
Star Ocean 4 is just dreadful.
Lunar: Dragon Song, the first two were beautiful, but the DS game is one of the worst JRPGs I've ever played.







