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SWORDF1SH said:
Nem said:

That's because they aren't wrong. You just can't see it cause you are that calous with your money and the future of the market. It's ok, because its human nature to only care about one self.

I don't really care about your NX remark. Im not even getting the NX so... i guess atempt at humor failed? But if it does, i will be as against it as i am with Xbox and playstation.

What exactly is your point? You say that people are being duped because they find value in a service. Now I presume that you're are trying to say that people that support PS+ is spoiling it for people that don't want to pay for online? Would I be correct to presume that?

First up you are arguing 2 different point and secondly if people thought like you things would never progress. I'm willing to pay for a superior online service and not be stuck with something that Nintendo fans have. This isn't a pop at Nintendo but it's fact that Sony and MS offer a far better service on the networking side of things and guess why? Money being pumped into it which they can't do without subs.

On Plasma and LCD monitor I paid cheap because others before me paid premium so it could develop and drop in price... on 4K I paid very high so in a few years it will probably be a lot cheaper because it hit stream... it's normal for early adopters to get a little burned while helping the technology improve... there are options to it, just waiting, you don't need to complain that something is expensive, you wait until it's affordable to you.

Bandorr said:
Nem said:

That is the gullable pov. There is no service there that is worth a monthly fee. People pay it to have acess. They are gullable for doing so. It's a service that is super cheap to mantain. It only incurs in losses for the company if you are a hardcore online player. There is a big difference and many seem gullable enough to not see it. 

Hardcore online players should pay a fee. Casuals shouldn't. It's bad for themselves, for the health of online games for there to be a paywall and for future business practices. Those paying are beeing duped and making it worse for everyone.

If you still don't understand, save it. It's too late for you.

Whenever someone brings this up - I like to point at the PS3. The online is FREE - yet people pay for it? Why?

If people are being "duped" and  "forced" into paying for online - why are/did anyone pay for the ps3 subscription?

Well it gone from 3-4M to 21M by mandating Online MP payment... I don't like it, but seems like 17-18M people were ok with it, so he is complain only because he can't play without paying and is assuming that the other 19M that haven't signed are the same (while a lot of them could be multi console or shared acc owners).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."