Lingyis said:
Crono said:
That Guy said:
Crono said: It doesn't matter if they can be shown to be authentic or not. Those who choose not to believe will stick with that choice no matter what evidence to the authenticity of the scripture cited is. They have hardened their hearts to the Holy Spirit, and no amount of talk or convincing will change that. |
I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you. You can't expect people to *just believe* and not have any evidence of a scripture's validity. Now there's the whole issue of "pearls before swine" for people who have already made up their minds, but what if there was someone who was still on fence? If the Bible turns out to be forgery, then people would not want to believe it. However, if the Bible stands the test of scrutiny and does hold authentic, then it should be faith strengthening, to say the least. |
Jesus put it best in his discussion with Nicodemus: If you cannot believe me when I speak of earthly things, how then will you believe me when I speak of heavenly things? The truth is the Bible is the best historical record we have for the history of the jewish people. Its authenticity and accuracy has been verified countless times. This is just on the basis of Earthly things. And people still deny it, even in the face of the evidence shown right under their noses. How then, will they trust the Bible when it speaks of Heavenly things? Edit: I think we got our wires crossed. I wasn't saying you didn't need evidence for its authenticity. I was saying that there is evidence for its authenticity, but it doesn't matter to those who deny the Bible authority. |
i don't really want to chime in on this but... history is written by winners. that includes that bible. if christianity is not surviving as well as it is, the bible would be a historical relic. there is a selection bias. i don't want to be polarizing, just pointing out something that none of my christian friends ever realize, or, more likely, is willing want to realize. |
No, it would just be relegated soley to its roll as a record of history. Yes, history is written by the winners, but Biblical history basically stops it record 50 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus, therefore it has nothing to do with how well christianity is surviving. Its ancient history i'm talking about: pre roman conquest of the region and earlier, even back to the time of Abraham, historical facts and locations spoken of in the Bible have been verified in the real world (such as the locations of Sodom and Gamorrah)
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Wii: 14 million by January I sold myself short
360: 13 million by January I sold microsoft short, but not as bad as Nintendo.
PS3: 6 million by January. If it approaches 8 mil i'll eat crow Mnn Crow is yummy.
With these results, I've determined that I suck at long term predictions, and will not long term predict anything ever again. Thus spaketh Crono.