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The Fury said:
pastro243 said:

People think those players are better thn they actually are because of overrated premier league 

I wouldn't say that. I think it's more just a case of the players not being used to playing with each other. When you are playing with the same team week in week out, you get used to the play style and how your teammates setup, but with international football, not so much. It's just in the case of other national sides, i think playstyles from their main clubs and their national sides are closer as a lot of the players usually come from the top 2 clubs....

... I say this and realise that loads of players from the French, German and Spanish sides all play in the Premier League but they are doing fine in this tournament.

Oh, I remember now, England are crap.

Yeah, it was an overstatement to say it's overrated, but what you are telling me applies for almost any national team. I think English players are simply not as good as the most succesful euro teams and if you combine it with poor management you have these results.