Is becoming a vegetarian/vegan worth it?

[Eagle367]

HoloDust said:

Eagle367 said:

Your last point about suffering makes me angry because you also "torture and kill" plants brutally for vegan diets. You chop them up rip them apart just because no blood does not mean a plant's life is any worth more than an animal. If you don't want to kill then eat only fruits and without harming the seeds.Vegans also participate in killing and 'murdering' living beings. Stop being self righteous you kill to eat like any animal. Only plants are exempt from this because they are producers. Tell me are plants not living also. This is in no way a valid argument for being vegan and it is irritating as hell when vegans assume so. According to your own words you also torture and murder plants. Deal with it

This is very valid point in "animal killing" discussion - as someone who went vegetarian in my early 20's (I'm in mid 40s now), when people were asking me why I did it I was telling them that I don't feel comfortable with killing animals, as in me, personally, and as in animals, not living beings per se. I would still kill animal in wilderness if there was nothing else to eat, but I just don't have to in current world, so I just skip that part.

On the other side, I'm perfectly comfortable with ripping a plant from the ground any time of day to eat - I guess it's our inherent anthropocentric natures  that makes us feel more comfortable with killing plants than animals, some people just accept that as part of themselves, others don't.

But don't say murder and torture. Eating meat is in our nature just look at our anatomy. If killing animals is torture and cruel and murder then so is plants. I have seen vegans act self righteous and they think they are doing something humanitarian or great or fantastic when they don't eat animals. You can eat grass for all I care but don't act superior because of that. Just a reality check that technically we torture plants a hell of a lot more than we do animals and we are fine with that so the animal murder part is all in your heads and I am proud not to be a part of this arrogance and eating meat is also healthy if taken in the right dosage. A meat eater can be just as much healthy and even more than vegans, so stop with this self service garbage you people have going in

Sorry for the hard language but this behavior makes me furious and mad as hell. I am human and hence eat meat and plant because humans as a species is omnivores.