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Swordmasterman on 27 June 2016
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davygee said:
Intrinsic said:

The point of delaying and incresing the price is all about more powah!!! And that point is a big deal csuse sony isnt in this alone. Even more relevant when its considered how essy it would be to make that more powerful box.

A mistake you are making is that you are treating the neo/scorpio like they are new consoles. It doesnt matter if the neo comes in at $400/$500/$600. There is a cheaper alternative oit there. People that go to buy a $300 PS4 won't miss out on anything. They just chose to get a 1080p version of the PS4. 

As with above, it doesnt matter if sony comes out a year before or a year after with the neo, game sales arent going to reflect whst sku of the PS4/XB1 they are played on. If by the time the neo is released there are 60M PS4s out there and it sells 1M units in one day (big if), the amount of PS4s out there will be 61M. 

Just look at these new consoles as nothing more than 4k boxes with added IQ stuff for more eye candy. I can almost gaurabtee you that both the neo and scorpio, even though outputting in 4k, will not run anygame natively at 4k. Its just a waste of resources. 

First to market makes such a huge difference, especially when its a solid 12 months.  Even if Sony delayed the Neo by 6 months to release a more powerful box, at a higher pricepoint, then all MS needs to do is up the spec slightly and still be the most powerful console on the market.  Sony will know, no matter what they do, MS will make sure their console is the most powerful.  So it is better for Sony to release first.

IMHO, the Scorpio is such a large leap from the Xbox One, it should be regarded as a new generation.  Yes it will run Xbox One games, but it IS a new platform.  The Neo on the other hand is a souped up PS4 and Sony have stated that it's a premium PS4.

One thing I do agree with, is that neither the Neo nor the Scorpio are 4k gaming consoles.  I'm in no doubt that the Scorpio will be able to show 4k games @ 30fps but they will look virtually identical to the Xbox One versions albeit at a higher resolution.  So we would only expect Medium to High settings at 30fps from the Scorpio.  I don't expect the Neo to be 4k at all.  Yes it will be able to play 4k video streams etc, but seriously doubt we will see any 4K native resolutions in any games.

We would be looking at 9-10tf in a home console to get 4K, Ultra-High @ 60fps....we are so why away from that.  Maybe for the PS5 in 2019.

Sony stated that  even if they launch the Neo this does not means that they will not launch the PS5. Microsoft in the other hand stated that they will never more make another Console Generation, they stated "Beyond Generations" all the games that will run on Scorpio must first run well on the Original Xbox, both Scorpio and NEO are limited by their cheaper versions.