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danasider on 26 June 2016
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Lawlight said:
danasider said:
I think we believe the double standards are that big, because we are constantly hearing about feminism and sexism, etc. But the bottom line (aka the money) shows that there are plenty of successful comedians who have sexist jokes, who joke about rape and beating women, etc. etc. (many I find hilarious so this isn't a judgment post) who are millionaires, and they are men. Same goes for women.

So yes, men can and have always gotten "away with this bullshit" in some way or another (if making a career out of it isn't a way, I don't know what is).

If some woman is a man-hater, I don't try to point out some social injustice (which I don't believe exists in this case). I move on and don't watch her vids. Unless she's entertaining...

Can you give me examples of those comedians?

Though they don't explicitly say 'I hate women' (that I know) comedians like Daniel Tosh and Bill Burr are both millionaires that have careers today and have fairly mysogynistic material (with material about rape and domestic violence).

On the music front, there's no point in even listing the rappers and lyrics that are super sexist.

On a pop front, Chris Brown beat up Rihanna and has allegedly domestically abused other women. Sure, he got a media lashing (this was a case of straight up violence, not someone belittling another gender by doing tweets), but a few years later his career was hotter than ever. Funny part is, his music seemed to get more mysogynistic (see Loyal) after the incident.

And these guys are all way more famous than some YouTube chick I never heard of. Maybe if one of these guys straight up said, 'I hate women' he'd be crucified - for a short amount of time seeing how the public is generally forgiving of celebrities. But I think that goes for women who are super famous as well. This girl, despite 600 million YouTube views, ain't no Beyonce or Katy Perry so she doesn't have to watch what she says as much. Most of the really famous celebrities that stand to lose a lot are essentially brands so they aren't going to say statements that are very racist or sexist or anything of prejudice without expecting a backlash - man or woman.

Again, I like all the artists I listed above in terms of entertainment value. I'm just saying, plenty of sexist men have booming careers which partially center around their sexism so I really don't see this double standard as being as big or even existing the way everyone is voting. Just my opinion.