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Hedra42 on 24 June 2016
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Soundwave said:
Symbolic said:

Would you be claiming that "democracy has failed" if the UK populace voted to remain in the EU?

Well I will say this, looking at the exit polls it looks like it if was just people 65 or younger voting, the "Remain" side would've won fairly easily. 

It's people 65 and over that tilted the scales ... and I have to question whether or not people, many of whom are likely to be dead in 10-15 years have the right to change the future of a country that they won't be living in pretty soon. 

Lol, there was no exit poll, made apparent by 90 minutes of very boring TV before the first results coming in.

There have, however, been plenty of demographic polls that did suggest those statistics (the typical Remain profile came out as a 24 year old female graduate living in Scotland, the typical Leave profile came out as a 60 year old male skilled worker living in East Anglia)

You might also want to factor in the young people who didn't vote because they were wallowing in mud at Glastonbury all day yesterday, or those people in the South and the East who couldn't reach their flooded polling stations, or had better things to do like pumping flood water out of their homes after the huge thunderstorms that hit the UK the night before.

Not to mention the relatively low turnout of Scotland. Who knows, if more of them had turned out north of the border, they might have increased the Remain vote further.

Soundwave said:
Symbolic said:

Are you proposing that voting rights should be limited based on age, projected life span or length of intention to live within that country? Would this only apply to referendums, or also to general elections where one segment of a particular politician's platform could have an impact after that particular voter is no longer living in the UK?

Secondly, how would you handle legislation and government programs that were enacted long before many current voters were even born? Should they be exempt from the programs, or should they just have to deal with the decisions of their predecessors? An example of this would be the United Kingdom joining the European Economic Community in 1973; anyone born in 1953 or later didn't get to vote in the 1970 general election that elected PM Edward Heath and thus didn't have a say on whether or not the UK should have joined the EEC, yet all of them have had to live with that decision.

How do you possibly know that everyone who voted to leave voted based on "hate and blind patriotism"? Could people not have simply reasoned and came to a different conclusion than you?

Secondly, what do you even define as "hate"? Does wanting to implement an immigration system akin to Australia's point system count as "hate"? Does building a fence and policing your borders like Hungary count as "hate"? Does merely being critical of the European Union's or some of its member states' views on immigration and identity count as "hate"?

I'm just point out the flaw in it. Even the whole "the working class voted" ... well the vast majority of the working class is under 65 years old, so in that case this isn't what they voted for at all

These figures are extrapolated from a poll based on 1652 people. 

You know how VGChartz works :D