Brexit discussion thread- UPDATE: the majority chose leave!

[Scisca]

Soundwave said:

Scisca said:

You still don't have a clue. Stop thinking in micro scale. Open your eyes and start thinking macro. When the UK PM and Polish PM meet to talk about their countries' policies, cooperation and common policy, what difference does it make that there are some people in UK that don't like Polish immigrants? None! It's absolutely meaningless! Nobody gives a damn about it! It has no influence on anything we're doing together in Europe.

Stop with this drama, you're absurd. So far nothing has changed, it will take YEARS for UK to leave. As of yet - nothing has changed, nobody is in any kind of limbo.

Invest the money they earned there. Many people who went there are quite successful - I wouldn't mind if they returned back home with the extra capital and experience.

Invest with what? It's not like these men/women are working in London as investement big wigs. Most of them are making month-to-month payments back home to their kids to put food on the table while they live probably in tiny flats the size of a closet. The work jobs most average Brits don't want or are too lazy to do. 

It makes a difference when the political discourse is taken over by people who dislike say Eastern European immigrants or whatever group they dislike to render policy against them. If that's not a difference, I'm not sure what is. 

That's only your personal opinion. I know for a fact many of them are successful enough to be able to add to our economy. My brother returned from UK this year and had enough capital to start a business here and buy a few flats to rent on the side. You don't need billions of dolars to start a business.

No it doesn't. The English are pragmatic and will follow their centuries-old policy of supporting a balance on the continent, cause it benefits them the most. UK doesn't want any European country to become a significant leader, instead wants countries to keep cancelling each other out. That's why the rise of Germany and their alliance with Russia scares UK and their natural answer is to support Poland as counterweight in Central Europe. That's why Cameron visits Poland a couple times a year, that's why we've started a close cooperation within NATO. No populist bullshit will blind any politician over it. Learn about true politics.