Why does Messi needs to win a major tournament in order to be compared to Pele and Maradona?

[pastro243]

Scisca said:

pastro243 said:

Man, all conmebol teams except for Ecuador made it out of their groups in the world cup. Uruguay kicked out Italy and England, Chile did it with euro and worldcup champions spain. In the round of 16 Brazil beat Chile and Colombia did it with Uruguay, then Brazil beat Colombia. Besides, the last 3 confederations cup have been won by Brazil.

Fifa rankings don't mean much but there you have that half the top 10 are conmebol teams.

 

I agree that Copa América is on a lower step than euro, but euro isn't on par with the world cup if you are missing conmebol teams and all those great players (at least 3 of the top 5) 

Up until this year Euro was much more stacked than the WC, there are so many crappy teams from Africa, Asia and Oceania in the WC and quite a few quality Euopean teams not present, that it's a no contest. We lack those 4-5 top teams from Conmebol, but it's still a good trade-off, since we lose all the chaff. That's also the reason why getting out of the group on WC isn't anything incredible, there are too many random teams there. And after that stage the solid teams were consistently eliminating the spontanious latinos.

Conmebol is easily the second best region, but your defence... Why do you all refuse to play defence!? Maybe Argentina and Uruguay are the two teams that try to play it (Italian genes? ). You'd be much better off if you focused on it the way we do. It's what sets us apart, really.
The FIFA rank is absurd, Belgium is 1st/2nd, while Poland barely entered the top 30. Absurd.

Seriously, who cares about confederations cup? Do they even air it on tv?

Teams that play it care, a lot, just ask spain how they felt after being beat by usa and Brazil in the last two. And at least here they air it everytime and people gather to watch most matches.

 

I think you are underestimating other confederations, the best teams from each ones are better than the europeans that don't qualify. Besides, World cup qualifiers in Europe are really easy for big teams, and you already have a hell lot of spots for the World cup. 

 

And on fifa rankings, I also think they are inaccurate but you can't argue quality from the top 10. 

 

I agree on the defense part, it's something cultural (you get the best attacking players but fall short on defenders and goalkeepers)