Goatseye said:
In 2014 World Cup they had Bosnia, Nigeria and Iran in their group; only ok team there was Nigeria. Then they played Switzerland in the 1/8, they won 1-0; followed by Belgium ok team with a lot of hype behind it at the time (again 1-0), then they got a competent team in Netherlands that pushed them to penalty decision. In the final, they got Germany a solid team all around and they lost. Argentina is everything but a solid team, everytime they play against compact teams like Chile or Uruguay they shake at their foundation. Their defense suck major balls. |
So you are saying they lucked into the finals. You know they lost the final on the second half of the extra time after having had like 4 chances ot score and botching it right ? And they wer eplaying defense the whole game (liek they did the entire world cup). Saying 2014s Argentina side wasn't solid as fuck is insane, winning 1x0 means nothing as Spain won a world cup by beating everyone 1x0. Switzerland is a decent side, Belguium is objectivly good, penalty or no penalty they beat Netherlands and basicaly every team get easy games on the gorup stage. You can say germany got Portugal but Portugal has been sucking for awhile now.
And regardless of who you are playing you need to win or you are out, it happens very frequently on World Cups. Algeria was probably the ahrdest match for germany till the final (it was definetly way ahrder than Brazil) and its the one everyone would think would be a walk in the park. Looking at the match ups in a piece of paper after the torney and saying, this this and this matchs are all easy pickings makes no sense.
| Scisca said: It goes without saying, that nobody has ever been capable of playing the way Messi plays. The sport went so far ahead, that if you sent an average modern team back in time, they'd all be legends now. Still, just like LeBron secured his place among the greatest players ever with 3 titles, Messi should start collecting some international cups. I mean, it's not like Argentina isn't totally stacked with talent. He has a great team and should finally win something. His curse though is that he's Argentinian and World Cup is the only time he can really shine. Copa just isn't what Euro is. European players have it easier to secure their legacies with cups. |
If you sent teams back in time theyd slaughter the oposition, however if you were to wipe the teams from the past from time the teams from today would be playing like the teams back them used to play. It is because players like Pelé, Cruyff, Maradona, Romário, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Baggio, Di Stefano etc existed that ppl understood how one should move in a field effectiely and why other ppl started studying how to prevent it from happening. The comparision needs to be relative and not direct. How important was a player to his teams and the winning of titles, how many titles did he achiev, what was his overall contribution to the sport, in relation to the oposition of his time how much ahead was he ? Thats what we have to compare.
