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Goatseye said:
pastro243 said:

I'm sure he is, and I'm sure many players today would be better than him since football and training has evolved. Sportsmen are better now, but the level of superiority that Pelé showed against the ones against who he played is greater than what Messi does now IMO.

 

Maradona is closer, and I think Messi is better both in achievements and as a player, and I also don't buy the "Maradona won the World cup/serie a alone" since those teams were awesome. Also Maradona wasn't THAT ood in Barca 

 

I think argentinians just prefer diego since his personality is closer to the popular south american guy and because they don't care about champions League and such(understandable). Diego also was a Boca idol, Messi never played in Argentina.

At the time when Pele was playing in the 60's, many Brazilians thought that Garrincha was more technical than him. The disparity wasn't that big.

Could be, but you could say the same with Ronaldo, Xavi and Iniesta now, there are some people that put them above Messi in times where most considered Messi above them.

 

Messi is still Young, he could well win this copa América this week and the world cup in Russia, but my opinion is that if you ended his career now, Pelé would be above