Sony Tries to Downplay Microsoft’s Project Scorpio Hardware Power

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AlfredoTurkey said:

Pemalite said:

All PC vendors have their own, pre-built, gaming machines for sale. Lenovo, Dell, HP, MSI, Asus, doesn't matter, Steam lists some gaming machines you can buy too.
Most reputable tech stores can guide you to a gaming rig, even custom built machines. (Aus PC Market, PC Case Gear etc' do this in Australia.)

So yes. You can walk into a store, buy a gaming PC, go home and plug it in.

PC also went digital years ago. But they still sell games on Disc. (EB Games in Australia does, even in my local store.)
But why get off the couch to go to a store? Isn't that anti-convenience? It's not like most games don't require you to download a significant amount of data even if you buy it on Disk anyway, even on console.

With 180 million~ estimated PC gamers on Steam, convenience doesn't seem to worry most people.

I don't see gaming PCs in Wal-Mart, Target... I just don't see them. I see cheap laptops though. And even if I did see them, I'd still have no clue what I'm getting. With a console, I can just buy the thing, and be done for years on end. It's brain dead stuff. I KNOW what I'm getting with PS4, Wii-U and Xbox One. I have NO idea what the hell I'm getting with a gaming PC... ziltch. 

I understand for someone who knows PC gaming inside and out that it may seem hard to grasp but console games and console gaming is really just much less mental work. I buy a box once every 5 years, buy games for said box, and bam... that's it. For me to get up to speed with you and what you know, it would take a long time. 

I wouldn't know what is available on American supermarket shelves, I don't live there.

The point is... There is 180~ million people on Steam, playing GAMES, obviously people haven't found the same complaints as yourself.
Gaming PC's are readily available at most reputable tech stores, staff will guide you to what you want.

Conina said:

AsGryffynn said:

You're forgetting one very important thing... Those things are expensive! If the Scorpio can be cheaper than a rival PC, then it's natural they will drift towards them... 

Scorpio will have ~6Tflops processing power and it is still 18 months away. The RX 480, which will launch next week, already packs ~5Tflops for $200. When Scorpio launches, there will probably be RX 570 and GTX 1150 for $100 - $150 around, which can keep up with it or RX 580 and GTX 1160, which surpass it by far.

And on PC, you are free to decide, if you put additional power in resolution or framerate or better effects/post processing or better textures or better antialiasing or a balanced mix of the features you prefer. On consoles you have to take the settings which the developers decide for you as "best compromise".

Of course a complete PC will still cost a bit more than a similar powered console, but if you only have to upgrade a few components of your old PC, the investment can be cheaper than buying a new console.

Tflops isn't an accurate way to gauge the performance of hardware. You can have a 5Tflop GPU beat a 6Tflop GPU.

The Radeon 500 series will be a complete rebadge of GPU's from the last 5 years, with a couple of high-end Navi-based GPU's thrown on top.
This year we get Polaris and (If AMD doesn't delay)Vega+rebadges in the 400 series.

Thus the Radeon RX 580 next year, will likely be the Vega based Radeon 490 from this year.

Scorpio should be competitive with Vega.