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Veknoid_Outcast on 20 June 2016
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Normchacho said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

I never said the games cease to be, or that they should be removed.

I'm making a very clear distinction about what is and what matters. 

Let's be real: no one making a list like the one that started this debate is doing so to provide edification for the reader. They're doing it as part of an anatomical measuring contest, to use an artful euphemism. But the list is useless on its own. It's simply a collection of numbers and letters. Unless those games are good or great, who cares?

The same goes for Metacritic, a poor measurement of quality. Yes, it shows the critical consensus. Again, a collection of numbers and letters that mean nothing if we disagree with them.

What matters and what doesn't is up to the reader, not the author (curator in this case).

I would agrue that it matters less if it's just the games he has played and enjoys. Because as it stands, that list is cumalitive. If you asked enough people what their favorite PS4 exclusives were, you'd get every game on that list eventually. Every game matters to somebody and it's silly to claim that games don't matter because the person who made this particular list doesn't personally have experience, or enjoy a certian game.

The reason it's important to include a baseline meassure of quality, is because if you don't it's the first thing that will be brought up. By including a metric you avoid that. Now, people will certainly argue the merits of that particular metric. But that's a different topic than the one at hand.

There's nothing wrong with people having conversations about their favorite games and how the compare to other peoples favorite games. But that's a totally seperate conversation.

Anyone can google "PS4 exclusives" or visit Metacritic and compile such a list. It's out there. It's real. Uncharted 4 is a PS4 exclusive. That's a fact. It has a 93 on Metacritic. That's a fact.

I don't come to VGChartz to look at data I can find on any search engine. I come here for insight, for analysis. So I'd much rather members provided information on games they love, and why. I don't want them to show off a list of games other people like. I want personal recommendations.

Your argument seems to pre-suppose there's some objective measurement of quality out there. There isn't. My opinion is no more true than the 50 opinions assembled on Metacritic for any given game.