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LudicrousSpeed said:
Swordmasterman said:

Gran Turismo is a franchise that launched 20 years ago, and they don't release or announce a new game every year, Since the launch of the Xbox One, from 2013 to 2016 the console had Forza 5, Forza Horizon 2, Forza 6, and now Forza Horizon 3, meanwhile not even a single Gran Turismo game.

And a Indie game is a game made by independent developers, Kojima's game is a Indie game, Recore is a Indie game, No Man's Sky is a indie game.

The last God of War or Zelda game launched much time ago so those games aren't yearly franchises like Forza.

Sounds like a failure on PD's part that we haven't seen a GT yet. Either way, it doesn't discredit or change a thing I said.

You sound equally confused as to what an indie game is as the guy who made the thread. No Man'y Sky is a full price retail title with backing from Sony. Labeling it an indie game is misleading. Same with whatever Kojima is making.

The term "indie" pretty much needs to die because people argue over it when it's so nebulous that it doesn't even matter.  It's not "indie" because they have a promotional deal with Sony?  Because "indie" only applies if a game is at a certain price point?  Who cares.  The "indie" studios of yesterday are now making our new middle-ware, which is awesome.  Arguing about the label is empty.