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Azzanation said:
Zekkyou said:

I'm a bit confused. So what you're saying is, the Neo's primary competition will be a system several times weaker than it (based on current spec expectations), but the Neo won't be able to compete with the Scoprio, a system with a 30%~ (maybe 40%~) advantage? You also make a point of mentioning that the X1S's cheaper price will give it an advantage, but don't make a similar comment for the Neo vs Scorpio. Were the PS3 and 360 not competing because the latter launch earlier? Does the PS4's current hardware advantage mean the X1's not competing with it?

I'm sure you can see why this is all a bit inconsistent, thus understand my confusion.

Its not about power. XB1s will be the cheapest 4k player on the market which will appeal to many when buying TVs etc. The Neo will be a more expensive device. For none gamers the X1s is heaps more attractive and will most likely dominate thst area. The Scopio will be its own thing since it will not only out power the Neo but will possibly be the leading 4k machine when it comes to quality. 

Your looking at it as a gamers view. Im looking at it on a wider scale. One of the key reasons the PS3 managed to sell well was due to its Blu Ray player which was affordable to many new buyers for Full HD TVs. Many none gamers brought a PS3 for there entertainment system. I see the X1s doing the same thing.

4k is a new market. I also dont think the Neo or the Scorpio will sell heaps. 

The bolded doesn't really clear things up for me; you're still making partially reversed arguments for the Neo vs X1S, and the Neo vs Scorpio. You say it's not about power, and yet you state the Scorpio being stronger (it currently seems to be to a similar degree as the PS4 is stronger than the X1) as a reason why it'll be its "own thing". You also acknowledge that the X1S's cheaper price will help it, yet don't seem to think it'll matter for the Neo vs Scorpio (i'm basing that assumption on you still not mentioning it even after i have).

I agree the X1S will be more attractive for none-gamers (though with how small the physical 4k media market is right now, i'd say both the standard PS4 and X1 have the real advantage here), but that doesn't address the above. You seem to think price and power are only an advantage for one side of the battle. That obviously doesn't make any sense, so i was hoping for clarification.