PS4 Slim?

[DonFerrari]

BraLoD said:

DonFerrari said:

If people can't differentiate between two products you better send they to pre-school... how can someone buy a car and choose the model and accessories, too much confusion.

If the person have internet, have different prices in the store and 2 brain cells I think they can perceive the difference between both versions, if not they would have a hard time even buying Neo over PS4 or different HD size on the consoles or cellphones.

You can't blame anyone but yourself if your consumers can't get exatcly right what your products are, and if they make a mistake, the confusion comes from and will reflect on you, and the one who will lose is you.
Making very clear what is and what for are your products is a priority to sell them.
You can't expect the consumers to look for info, you have to make it clear yourself, and making it hard for them is the completely opposite of what you should do, thus Sony will simply not do it, there is no way it'll happen, no way.

Release one, burn it in the mind of the consumer, release the other later then, and that's what will happen.

I agree that confusing your customer is your fault. But releasing two HW isn't necessary making customer confused, it will depend on how they make the release and marketing.

Bristow9091 said:

DonFerrari said:

Ps2 was a lot smaller than Xbox and sold even better than PS4 yet they done Slim.

It could be technically impossible (which I doubt, they have good engineers for that), but to say current sales make Slim impossible is not good reason. Not to overlap release of Neo would be a valid reason depending on how they want to phase their catalogue.

... I don't think you understand my post; Nowhere in it did I state that it was impossible, I simply asked the question of how much smaller the console could actually become, and then gave my opinion that with the way it's selling, they don't need to make a slim model anytime soon... I didn't say they won't, just that they don't need to yet.

Ok I see... yep we don't know for sure how much they can shrink. If they stay at the current die size they won't be able to cut much since the PS4 is almost the same size as the waffle. They would need 14nm to really have a big gain, and as some have said here it won't be coming for PS4 just for Neo but we can be sure.

aLkaLiNE said:

DonFerrari said:

You mean PC against X1S and what scorpio may see in the future?

No, I meant that Scorpio will have VR games while the original X1 won't, so going by that, Scorpio will exclusively have That set of games which alienates existing owners. 

I know it, I was just kidding with you. Funny enough is that at first they were promissing the X1 would still run everythin... but looking at kinect and always online plus cloud I'm not sure they would hold this promise as well. And if they depend of Scorpio plus Occulus to do VR it could possibly be too expensive to really have any impact.