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Ali_16x said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Well, yeah, of course it's my opinion. I don't judge greatness by sales or scores or popularity.

I'm more than happy to debate the merits of Sony's first party efforts, but if you're just going to talk about how "most people" or "tons of people" like something, or - worse - quote Metacritic, then I'm afraid we can't have a very productive conversation.

Why don't you tell me why YOU like those games, and we can go from there.

Except, that is the ONLY way to have a productive conversation. When it comes down to stuff like this, it's all opinions, there is no real right answer. So you saying things like "Sony has a bad first party lineup" as a fact, that's just your opinion. So whose to say who right? You really can't, the closest thing you can say is what most people thought of them. And literally all the games you listed, most have enjoyed, including me.

Lol, the way you are talking about most of these games including Killzone 2, InFamous Second Son, MediaM, Uncharted 3, all games I've played, is as if they're the worst things ever, as if NO ONE enjoyed them, that's ridiculous. 

Yes, that's true. But isn't that why we're here? To exchange information and opinions?

If we just go by Metacritic, Ocarina, Halo, Super Mario Galaxy, and Half-Life 2 are the best games. Period. And If we go by sales, something like Wii Sports or Minecraft is the best game. No debate.

How boring is that? Why even post?

Anyway, the offer still stands. I'm happy to debate the finer points of Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Tearaway, whatever. But I don't want my opinion to be invalidated by sales figures or Metascore.