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Intrinsic on 18 June 2016
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SvennoJ said:

So for devs it's a rather pointless extra effort for that minor install base that can run the game anyway. (no access to new customers)
For users it's a rather pointless upgrade, bad value for money
For progress it's introducing a mill stone going forwards, unless next gen still happens, making the upgrade even less value for money.

I fully agree that what you wrote is probably gonna happen. Not a Neo spec 2 though, more likely to be a one time thing per generation. I remain under the impression this is all a byproduct from planar die shrinks having reached the end of the line and the switch to finfet architecture. I could be wrong though, I'm very curious to know what's inside the XBox One S. It's still bigger than a ps4, 28nm planar with some tweaks is my guess. $299 with same starter HDD isn't exactly much cheaper.

Basically not much will change. Instead of going down to 249 price point, prices will remain higher for longer. The sales curve will slow down and we're in for another long generation. Which is good news for psvr, gets a chance to develop before next gen arrives with 4K glasses. That's what I expect from Sony anyway. MS might have other plans, iterative Win 10 box.

Anyway it's going to be boring if all we have to speculate about is hardware upgrades. A new generation always stirs the imagination with new possibilities and new ips appearing. No way I'll ever get hyped enough to buy a hardware upgrade day one. I lost interest in PC upgrades over 6 years ago and now only play on my laptop occasionally. Same might happen with iterative consoles.

Yup... pretty much what i think. Though i dont feel its useless for consumers and devs alike lol. I think if done right, the more "last minute" a dev leaves the Neo/Scorpio modes the more to exactly what they are marketed as they are. Meaning, the devs just make a base mode of the game, and pretty much just set that exact same game to output at 4K on the Neo/Scorpio. 

That way they aren't really doimg much at all and the consumers that bought those boxes get to say they are playing that game at 4K and will have better AA to show off in pics. 

As for the pricing, i do think the core consoles are going to hit $199/$249 no later than fall 2017 with their upgrades coming in at $399/$499. 

Yh, sucks on the generation thing, but i can pretty much say ehat they are really doing here is getting rid of the "generation" console model. It just makes absolutely zero business sense. And it took mobile phones and mobile OSs to show that to them. But thats as far as the comparisons go tho, we arent going to be seeing new consoles every uear or Two. More like every 3-4yrs.

I am kinda excited about something when it comes to these iterative consoles though, I think they are more likely to drive tech adoption in the console space at a faster rate than ever before. Reason being that they have a safety net now. Sony can very well choose to make a $600 box with M.2 SSD expansion option, HBM2 ram and all the other fancy stuff you could throw into a box kmowing fully well that they don't really need you to buy that box. A few people will get it, and they will make a few at first, then the following year they can start droppong its price. 4yrs later, its at $349 too.