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sc94597 said:
Ljink96 said:
What do we do about this! I can't stand it. We have to stop Isis. This has gone on way too far. Bomb those buggers off the map...is what I'd like to say but it's much more complicated than that. Something has to be done. I'm sick and tired of waking up to shootings. My deep sympathies go out to the families affected by this twisted shithead. Sorry, I'm just livid right now.

We aren't sure this is connected with ISIS, but it certainly is connected with Islam. 

I don't personally think restricting immigration is the solution, but I do like the idea that when immigrants come they are given some education on the liberal values in which the society they are entering has structure itself. It needs to be taught that raping your wife is not allowed, gay people are going to have rights and it won't be made illegal, and there is going to be a lot of things that are ungodly to your eyes. If you don't like it, don't come. So basically from a young age, possibly have special classes for the children of immigrants with the goal of integration. 

I could see how this is politically untenable though, but not any more than restricting immigration. 

I also think there needs to be more pressure on liberal muslims (as there is on christians) to reform their muslim families/friends and not perpetuate illiberal ideas. Muslims can say Christians do it too all they want, but 52% of modern Christians in Britain don't believe homosexuality should be illegal, and many are even becoming okay with it morally in the U.S of all places. Muslims can follow that same path too, just as Christians had. It will take time though. 

It has come out that the shooter called 911 before the attack and plegded his allegiance to ISIS.

ISIS has also come out today and claimed responsibilty for this attack.