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vivster said:

sc94597 said:

The bolded already exist nationwide, there is a lot of misinformation that is spread about what American gun laws do or do not exist. When there are 320+ million guns having more guns in the right hands is the only solution to protect law-abiding people. As has been said, by practically every American who has posted in this thread, gun crime is limited to certain areas of cities where drug activity is rampant. The majority of homicides are between these criminals, as unfortunate as that is. You can't put a dent in the gun supply of criminals. 

Terrorism is a separate issue, that all countries, regardless of their gun control policies have issues with. 

As someone who closely follows American politics I would like to disagree. As purported by every gun expert in the world, more civilians with guns will not solve gun violence. Because most civilians with guns aren't even able to effectively use them in an emergency. Gun control will do what it's supposed to do, limiting gun possession and gun availability.

If no civilian in the US would have a gun except for criminals you would not have more gun deaths, you would have a lot less. And if guns are less distributed it will be easier to track down illegal guns.

Saying that stricter laws will not do anything is a fallacy. It's like saying we don't need police because they can't prevent every crime.

I never implied (nor explicitly said) it would solve gun violence. Homicide rates will continue to decline (which is at a respectable rate) at the rate they've been unless something drastic is done about U.S poverty rates and the war on drugs. 

My concern is that the right people (those who just want to defend themselves) are able to secure their right to do so. These are the people most disproportionally affected by gun control, not the criminals. 

You can't limit gun possession and gun availiability in the U.S. That ship has already sailed. Most people who commit violent crimes get their guns illegally already. 

Stricter laws will definitely do something. They will hurt the people who most deserve to own weapons.