Final-Fan said:
Branko2166 said:
Firstly I'm an Australian so I cannot vote in the US general election.
Hypothetically though if I could vote I would vote for Trump.
I have a few reasons for this. Hillary has shown time and again that she is a hawk on foreign policy and an incompetent one at that. She voted for the Iraq war and presided over the Benghazi screw up. Furthermore she has continuously demonstrated her willingness to lie to the American people. In addition she is clearly the establishment candidate as the undemocratic no pun intended super-delegate support for her illustrates.
As for Trump, one thing we know for sure is that he is not part of the establishment. It seems obvious that the only reason he succeeded is due to the disfranchisement of the average republican voter. Also once you get past his coloruful language you may realise that he is not the second coming of Hitler as he is portrayed in much of the media including that of Australia. The insinuation that Trump can somehow kick out millions of people if he becomes president is ludicrous hyperbole as the US system contains within it substantial checks and balances which in turn makes it virtually impossible to act like a dictator.
And finally one of the main reasons I would vote for Trump is that he says what's on his mind. He provides a realistic view of America's problems and that is refreshing when compared to others who are perfectly aware of the issues but refuse to even recognise that America is caught up in an economic and social spiral.
For the record though I believe Hillary will win and the world will have to put up with the second Clinton dynasty. That will in turn lead to more wars internationally while the social cohesion of America further deteriorates on the domestic front. |
Three quick points.
1. If Bernie had more delegates and/or more popular vote I am pretty sure the superdelegates would back him; he does not have either, so they won't. Even if you disagree about what they would do if Bernie was ahead with the people, the fact remains that he isn't and won't be by the time of the convention, so I wouldn't say they made the result undemocratic in this case (or historically).
2. Having as President a man who is trying as hard as possible to be a dictator is bad even if he is doomed to fail; I reject your argument on this ground.
3. Saying what's on your mind is in and of itself a good thing but when what's on your mind is horrible that doesn't make a good potential President.
"I would bring back waterboarding, and I’d bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding." - Donald Trump
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I agree somewhat with your first counterpoint. Hillary did win the popular vote in hindsight. However unless I'm mistaken the superdelegates had opted for Hillary pretty much from the start.
Your second point is unsubstantiated. You have made an absolute statement without providing evidence. From the empirical evidence I can see that Trump is partaking in a democratic political process and has defeated the establishment candidates in spite of the republican party's resistance. Unlike the democrats however, they did not have the added buffer of superdelegates. I get that you are opposed to Trump but you cannot simply dismiss the democratic expression of voters that voted for him just because you do not like the guy. As of yet nothing he has done can be said to support the notion that he is attempting to become a dictator.
Your third point is purely subjective. Trump has indeed made a number of silly statements but has pretty much reigned most of that in since it became apparent that he was the frontrunner on the Republican side. Once you get beyond the rhetoric though I think that a lot of what he talks about does have merit.
A quick review - "Let's make America great again" - It seems evident that America has allowed its industry to become outsourced and is teetering economically due to its crushing debt. Socially it has been a long time since the country has been so polarised. Therefore I agree with the premise of the statement.
"I will build a great wall" - I don't think anyone took this quote seriously. A logical argument can be made that he is simply talking about strengthening border controls which appear unable to cope with the massive illegal flow of migrants from Mexico.
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending they're not sending the best" - While this may come across as offensive he is essentially right in the sense that those that cross the border illegally aren't exactly the best that Mexico has to offer as they were unable to immigrate legally. That can be the result of a number of reasons including insufficient qualifications or indeed a criminal record.
I will leave it at that for now but we can see that although what Trump says is often colourful and very much politically incorrect, what he says is often backed up by the facts on the ground.
