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fatslob-:O on 09 June 2016
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SuaveSocialist said:

1.  The Clinton issue in the end is better than a Trump issue in the end.
2&3.  It's not subjective.  Trump has no idea what he's doing. With his constant flip-flops (often mid-speech), he either has no ideas or has no clue what his ideas would actually do.
4.  He doesn't have a policy.  He has a few random, contradictory soundbites.  "The wages are too high"  *one week later* "Wages are too low."  If you're going to claim Trump's policies are better, you're going to have to prove it.  But Trump hasn't made it clear what his policies even are.
5.  Trump claims it's a much higher figure than 2 million, and his tax plan is tailored to benefit himself and his friends the most.  However thin you think the membrane is that separates corporate interests from Hillary's own policies, that barrier doesn't even exist with Trump.
6.  The Bernie supporters are indeed critical of Hillary; that's why they are Bernie supporters--most of them were Hillary supporters at one point.  Trump is just objectively worse.
7.  So you agree with me then.  

Integrity is the strength of one's convictions, not an indicator of what those convictions are.  An action that makes it easier for Trump to become President is arguably a violation of one's integrity if their convictions aligned with Bernie's---even Bernie himself has said that Clinton aligns much, much closer to himself than Trump and that a Trump presidency should be refused.  

If you think it's a question of integrity: you have it or you don't, Bernie supporters would easily demonstrate their integrity by choosing Clinton over Gary now that Trump's the Republican nominee.

I won't think less of you if you disagree, but I will lose faith in you if you still cannot comprehend.

1. Better is arguable ... 

2 & 3. That's his appeal, him having no idea what to do means he's incorruptible no matter what happens and if he's a flip flopper then so is Clinton with her voting record ... 

4. He's not clear on everything but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a stance from which he can create policies from ... 

5. According to authoritative sources such as OpenSecrets.org and FollowtheMoney.org, Trump has spent less than 2 million in total and that's a modest amount no matter what you think or what he says. Your totally wrong about his tax plans too since he's in FAVOUR of HIGHER taxes for the RICH to pay off the national debt to which not even Clinton cares enough to pay the bills. Trump serves his OWN corporate interests, not to others and that is far better than been at the mercy of others ... 

6. I wonder if Sanders supporters are critical about Sanders himself ... 

7. In no way did I agree with you ... 

You don't refuse presidency to maintain integrity, you maintain integrity by standing in your own beliefs. There is only cowardice in following a crowd you don't believe in, no integrity at all to be had in doing that so Sanders supporters backing Clinton means that their convictions are weak and fickle since they didn't have the strength to stand on their own ideals ... 

Integrity isn't about winning or losing, Sanders supporters have no principles or ethics to stand on if they cannot show their own humility. Instead of voting for Gary Johnson or Hillary Clinton they should be WRITING IN Bernie Sanders. If they can't do that then they don't deserve the honor of being a Sanders supporters and instead should redirect themselves as the rest of the insignificant #NeverTrump clones out there ...