Torillian said:
I'm very curious where you get the math for the bolded. The average college tuition (including room and board) is 23,872 a year (https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=76) The estimated number of college students in the US is 20.2 million. (http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=372) That comes out to 482 billion a year (this is assuming that universities keep their tuition as it is now) which the 682 billion mentioned before would more than cover. Also, if free college is so impossible for a country to afford, why do other countires already have it? |
Copy and paste from Steven Crowder's website
POLITICO – Bernie Sanders 18 Trillion New Spending
FORBES – The Biggest Military Budgets As Percentage Of GDP
THE BLAZE – Top 20% To Pay Nearly 72% Of Federal Tax Burden
WSJ – Greece Struggles To Get Citizens To Pay Their Taxes
TAX FOUNDATION – What Evidences Taxes And Growth
SALON – Wall Street Journal Bernie Sanders Piece Backfires. Single Payer Health System.
CONSUMERIST – Federal Student Loan Forgiveness Plans Cost Govt Nearly $22B More
MODERN HEALTHCARE – Medicaid Costing More Than Expected
WASHINGTON TIMES – Obamacare Premiums Spikes
SLATE – Healthcare Premiums Skyrocket
HUFFINGTON POST – Canada Free Healthcare
Fact References
- Sanders plan would cost $18 trillion: http://www.wsj.com/articles/price-tag-of-bernie-sanders-proposals-18-trillion-1442271511
- Here’s our piece: http://louderwithcrowder.com/math-the-exact-price-tag-of-all-bernie-sanders-proposed-free-stuff/
- Sanders plan math problems: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/05/29/1388484/-Bernie-Sanders-big-idea-has-a-math-problem
- “even if one accepts that $6.5 trillion in taxes can be realized, that leaves us about $11.5 trillion short” http://hotair.com/archives/2015/09/15/pricing-the-bern-wsj-puts-sanders-proposals-at-18-trillion-over-10-years/
- Examples of gov’t programs that cost more than expected:
- Student loan forgiveness (90% over budget): http://consumerist.com/2015/02/06/federal-student-loan-forgiveness-plans-cost-govt-nearly-22b-more-than-expected/
- New Medicaid beneficiaries: http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20150710/NEWS/150719984
- Obamacare: http://www.wsj.com/articles/cost-of-covering-new-people-under-aca-significantly-higher-than-expected-1436571837
- Military funding:
- Makes up 54% of discretionary spending: https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/military-spending-united-states/
- However, military spending is only 18% of total budget: http://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
- Receives roughly same as Social Security, but less than medicare/medicaid: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/07/everything-chuck-hagel-needs-to-know-about-the-defense-budget-in-charts/
- Strictly in terms of Dollars, we spend more on military than next seven countries, combined: http://pgpf.org/Chart-Archive/0053_defense-comparison
- US ranks 4th worldwide with regard to military spending as a percent of GDP: http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/06/25/the-biggest-military-budgets-as-a-percentage-of-gdp-infographic-2/
- Military spending has increased more in China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, etc. than in US last 7 years: http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2015/04/14/china-russia-military-spending-surges/25770921/
- The US is dominant on the world stage for a reason: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-defense-spending-by-country-2014-2
- Historical tax rates/consequences:
- “High” tax rate myth of 1950’s: http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/ib_19.htm#.VhWLZHpViko
- Nearly every empirical study of taxes and economic growth published in a peer reviewed academic journal finds that tax increases harm economic growth: http://taxfoundation.org/article/what-evidence-taxes-and-growth
- Norway not a great example of high tax success: http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/why-norway-is-a-bs-argument-for-higher-taxes-8235/
- Greece has 46% income tax rate… obvious how that worked out: http://www.tradingeconomics.com/greece/personal-income-tax-rate and government has trouble collecting taxes: http://www.wsj.com/articles/greece-struggles-to-get-citizens-to-pay-their-taxes-1424867495
Furthermore, other countries dont really have ''free'' healthcare, college etc etc... Money has to go from somewhere, and it comes from insanely high taxes that the citizens pay for their entire lives. So you get 5 years of ''free college'' and then you spend the rest of your life giving half of your earnings away so that the others can have 4 years of 'free education''. Here is a good video on it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYOjUqlcFA
Also, the reason many other coutries have ''free'' healthcare, college etc is because they spend almost virtually nothing on their defence. And the reason they do that is because they dont feel the need to, because the big bad imperialistic USA will cover their expenses and aid them, so that many ''liberal democrat'' western european countries can pretend to be the good pacifist, peaceful guys. In fact, I think I read somwhere that only 2 NATO members outside US (Poland and UK) pay their epected share on the military allience.
