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A debate is not won by bringing the opposing side to your point of view. A debate is won by the people watching and choosing which side is more logical and has more evidence. Sqrl won this debate hands down. You never responded to his comments properly, instead you tried to get this thread locked and said, very clearly I might add, that you were closed minded on this. You insinuated that sqrl was calling you dumb, which he apologized for and explained at least twice now, and you are still saying the same things. Why should there be a cease-fire on a heated topic? If you don't want to take criticism stay off the battlefield.