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theprof00 on 07 June 2016
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pearljammer said:

DonFerrari said:

 

Yep, you may say it's archaic... but if you don't want to have a sexual relationship with someone you can just quit the relationship, not demand that the other keep the relationship with you without any right to sex, you are the one that is thinking that the right of one is bigger than the other. I'm just saying that you either are together to have both happy and satisfied or you should be separated, not one pushing his will over the other because he want to be together but only if by the way to be.

 

But perhaps you are doing exactly like the guy before and reading what isn't written instead of what is.

 

Okay, I'm quite sure I'd gleaned what you'd meant the first time. No one has the right to have sex with someone. I'm not thinking that one right is greater than the other, I'm saying that one is simply not a right at all. It's both oddly specific and bordering ownership.

Since when have rights reached into other peoples' personhood (I suppose one could bring up abortion here, but I think there's an obvious disconnect).

" I'm just saying that you either are together to have both happy and satisfied or you should be separated" - People are regularly far more complicated than this. Relations aren't binary. If my wife doesn't wish to have sex tonight, I absolutely have no right to her body regardless of our relationship status. 

theprof00 said:
This is how I see your view, Don.

I am a guy. I am with a girl. If she doesn't want to have sex on a certain day, she doesn't have to. We are both independent, she has her own place and I have mine, and we both have our own friends. A relationship is just two people spending time together with some feelings involved and sex.

If a girl doesn't want sex, then she shouldn't be in a relationship with that person. And should call it off so that she can find someone she does want to have sex with or be with. If I didn't want to have sex with some girl anymore, I would just leave. It only makes sense that if you're not into someone, you leave.

Would you say this is more or less how you think about this?

I thought that was perhaps what he'd meant. He doubled done on the whole 'right' thing though.

This is why I'm guessing his thinking is very ethnocentric. He has a sound mind, good logic, and understands what a healthy relationship is (for the most part). However, like you and I both agree, relationships and people in general, are way more complicated. I am a natural empathizer, so I'm good at seeing things from other people's viewpoints and emotion. But not in the part that I am a 'sympathizer'. I am very good at reading and feeling what other people are feeling. I have found that in life, a majority of people have WAY MORE problems (caps for emphasis) than most other people will ever know. And people sometimes defy all logic.