Is having sex with drunk people rape?

[Scisca]

SuperNova said:

Scisca said:

I don't know how American bullshit law works, but in Europe it's not rape. The only case when it could be rape is when you forced her to get drunk. Like tied her up and forced her to drink. Otherwise, people are 100% responsible for what they do while they get drunk.

If you think being drunk is a valid defence when it comes to having sex, why wouldn't it be a valid defence when you cause an accident while driving a car? You are drunk and don't know what you're doing just like when giving consent to sex.

I'm pretty sure it's still rape in Europe if the girl is passed out or so drunk that she's drifting in and out of consciousness and you have sex with her, even if she got that drunk voluntarily in the first place.

Of course, having one beer doesn't make you unable to consent. Twelve? Yeah, maybe.

But that's a totally different case than what we're talking about. Fucking a corpse of a girl that passed out and having sex with a girl that gave consent while being drunk can't be compared.

Still, people need to learn that they are responsible for what they do when they get drunk just like when they are sober. Being drunk changes nothing - NOTHING.