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Kasz216 on 20 May 2008
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Grey Acumen said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
mesoteto said:
ohh i dont think we should do anything to them, well other then not letting them get married* , i have always taken the stance that you do what you want a long as you dont threaten me or my family


*the marriage thing is only b/c its a religious thing, i am all for them having equal government rights, but the act of marring someone is a matter for god not man

Marriage is a government thing too. There are over one thousand laws with the word "marriage" in them. To deny anybody marriage is to fuck them over in over a thousand ways.

You and your church don't have to recognize them, but the law absolutely has to.


See, this I don't have any problem with, but that's not a marriage. When it's done by the government alone, it's a civil union. If you're going to try to use laws having the term "marriage" in them as the excuse, then that's really off base, because religion was there first, and marriage only was used in the laws because religion set the standards.

Also, for those arguing that it's equal rights, I think any guy, whether gay or straight, should be allowed to marry any woman, whether gay or straight, so I'm hardly being unequal about the matter. I don't want to deny anyone the ability to marry, but the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman.

I've got no problems with a homosexual couple being recognized legally, but I do think that there needs to be a clear line drawn that it is only legally and that no religion is in any way bound to observe this union. Seperation of church and state goes BOTH ways, thank you very much. In that respect, I fully support gay civil unions, but not gay marriage.

 


What if some church wants to marry gay people? Like a Unitarian Church. Those guys will do anything.  Also, while you can attribute "marriage" to the catholic church.  It's not like it was a europeon invention.  Europeon name sure... but plenty of other people got married all over the world just with different names.