Is having sex with drunk people rape?

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Slarvax said:

Bandorr said:

That sounds like you are saying whatever happens to you while drunk - is YOUR fault because you chose to get drunk. I would not as that is pretty awkward and archaic thinking.

You're old enough to drink, and hopefully mature enough to know you are dumb while being drunk. There are consequences for bad decisions.

Now, that doesn't mean drunks deserve to be raped, but hey... maybe if you're around good friends or people you at least know it doesn't need to get to that scenario.

Except the vast majority of rapes occur in the family and between friends and aquaintances. Usually the perpetrator is someone the victims had some degree of trust towards. The kind of rape every woman I know is very afraid off, where a stranger snatches you off the street drags you in a dark corner and has their way with you, is actually much rarer than being raped by people you trust.

Scisca said:

Bandorr said:
You met her while she was drunk? Then yes technically rape. You can't give consent while drunk.

Both of you are drunk? I'd say no. You lack the intent to take advantage of the person.

I don't know how American bullshit law works, but in Europe it's not rape. The only case when it could be rape is when you forced her to get drunk. Like tied her up and forced her to drink. Otherwise, people are 100% responsible for what they do while they get drunk.

If you think being drunk is a valid defence when it comes to having sex, why wouldn't it be a valid defence when you cause an accident while driving a car? You are drunk and don't know what you're doing just like when giving consent to sex.

I'm pretty sure it's still rape in Europe if the girl is passed out or so drunk that she's drifting in and out of consciousness and you have sex with her, even if she got that drunk voluntarily in the first place.

Of course, having one beer doesn't make you unable to consent. Twelve? Yeah, maybe.