Atomic bomb survivors want an apology from Obama.

[Nuvendil]

Ruler said:

Nuvendil said:

Or they would have both developed their nuclear arsenal and have the wealth to further arm and strengthen themselves.  The government of North Korea is cruel, controlling, aggressive, and certifiably insane.  Openly trading with them won't do a thing to change that.

As for Japan, the embargoes were put on them because they escalated their war in Asia, allied with Germany, openly ignored the Hague Convention and other international laws and treaties they signed when engaging the Chinese, and finally occupied regions of Southeast Asia by making use of said alliance to Germany.  The aggression and brutality of Japan's campaign was more than enough to justify - or even obligate - sanctions.  Yes, Japan took the less sensible route and raised the stakes but by no means did they *have* to do so.  If they had withdrawn from Southeast Asia and stopped trying to (brutally) conquer east Asia, they could have easily negotiated the lifting of said embargoes and put the resources gained to building up their nation rather than going a-conquering.  

North Korea is sane and knows what they are doing, who nuked two civillian cities here? North Korea wants to have a nuke in order to defend themselfs against american foreign policy agression. The nuke will make them more save, it means less spending on convential arms like operating 1-2 million soldiers a year which could go somewhere else like feeding its people or build electricty palnts etc.

If you think the North Korean government is by any standard a good government then...wow I don't even know what to say.

And nukes don't make you safe. For one, they make you a larger target.  Second, it's not like anyone can use one right now, not attacking or defending.  So they can't use them to protect themselves.  All they can do is shield you from other nukes but that's not much since there are plenty of other destructive weapons out there.  

As for the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, I've given the facts on this numerous times so here's the short short short version:  they were military targets, one a massive command center and the other a weapons and munitions manufacturing center as well as containing an armory.  They were not pure soft targets, they would have been bombed to oblivion in the event of an invasion anyway.  Please see the rest of the freaking thread for details.