What happens when Putin is gone?

[Scisca]

Psychotic said:

Scisca said:

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Yeah, I'm certainly going to remember this in 10-20 years and come back to tell you how wrong you were... right....

Listen, I already told you: We're right next to you and I haven't heard anything about Poland in months. If you were a factor in anything important, something would've got into the news.

If Russia attacked Europe, the Baltic states would be overrun literally in days. There is no point for the OP to be concerned about it, it is beyond his control. The Czech Republic would be able to protect about 10% of its territory for about two weeks, the end. Currently, the Czech Republic is ranked on Global Firepower as the 32nd most powerful military in the world. Poland is 18th, being about twice as powerful, with more hardware, but lagging behind technologically.

Compared to Russia, you are absolutely outmatched in every category. 3 times less men fit for service is fine, but... 5x less trained soldiers, 10x less military aircraft (and that's counting your light transport helicopters against their heavily armed Hinds) and absolutelly technologically outclassed at that (all your fighters are from the 70s), 15 times (!!!) less tanks and 10 times less armored land vehicles, and again, how many of your Leopard 2 tanks would be needed to take out one Russian T-90? You would last a month, maybe? Two months? And that's if you wouldn't surrender immediately.

Face it, home boy, you would have difficuly beating even us, for Christ's sake, if you think you have anything on Russia, you are seriously misguided. You remind me of how the North Korean public actually believes that they could challenge the United States.

I hate Russia as much as the next guy, but let's be reasonable, okay? There is no point in pretending.

It's a pity you ignore all of my arguments, I'd actually love to hear what Czechs think about these moves other than pure denial.

Let me repeat - your ignorance changes nothing. Did you know your refineries were Polish? No. Does it change the fact that they are ours? No! Did you know about the game we're playing with Russia over your whole oil market? No. Does it change the fact that we are doing it? No! Did you know we've deployed our first company of troops in the Baltics? No. Does it change the fact that they are there? No! This stuff is happening, doesn't matter if you hear about it (though it's a pity the Czechs don't take notice of this) or not. But now that I've told you about it, I'd like to hear what you think about this new knowledge you've gained.

Baltic States would be overrun in 60 hours - NATO estimates That's why we've sent troops there That's why the NATO summit in Warsaw in a couple of day will most probably decide to send US troops there as well. We need to act.

I'm affraid you have some outdated info on Polish army. All our fighters come from the 70s? Dayum, these squadrons of state-of-the-art F16s (more modern than those used by Israel) sure got outdated fast! On top of that our Special Forces GROM are second to none - Delta Force, Sayeret Matkal, SAS, SEALs, you name them, GROM is right there on par with them (they were even included in Medal of Honour: Warfighter ). We are investing big money in our army now. We're buying new squadrons of helicopters (worth over 3 bil euro - almost as much as Czech Rep, Slovakia and Hungary spend on their whole military per year combined - we're getting between 50 to 80 new Hind class choppers), we're buying new anti-rocket systems, getting new tanks (including our own design of a stealth tank - check out the PL-01, will enter production in 2018) increasing the army size, we're creating the Territorial Defence... I think we're doing quite a lot.

Look. I know we are outmatched. They have the second army in the world - only USA can bully them around on a global scale (that's why we're trying to get as many Americans here as we can). The thing is, absolute numbers are meaningless! It doesn't matter how big army Russia has in total, look on the map - they need it to guard half of the bloody globe! They can't throw everything they have at us. They still need to guard Georgia, Chechnya, Syria, Ukraine and God only know what else. Tanks sitting behind Ural aren't scary. That is a big equaliser, cause we can throw everything we've got at them. Moreover, there is always the defenders advantage and the fact that Russian troops proved to be surprisingly inefficient in Ukraine... To defend you don't need to have as powerful an army as the attacker.

And most importantly - I'm NOT saying "WE'RE THERE", cause I know we're not there yet. I'm saying "WE'RE STEPPING UP". We are in the process, we are taking all the steps necessary to get there soon. Rome wasn't built in a day and if you read what I've provided you with - let me stress this, these are all facts, not wishes - I think that you can get a clear picture of what we're doing. And what the future of the region is shaping up to be. And there will be changes.

You think we'd have trouble conquering Czech Republic. Ok, trouble today - fine. How about in 8 years? Let me remind you, we are 20th in spendings in the World - with a buullet! Czech Rep is 63rd... We spend over 5 times more than you do every year and are hell bent on increasing it. As I've repeated - we need time, we are the underdog, but we are already playing the game. The big question is, how much time will Russia give us.