Society lets you go from an asshole to "truther" with one word

[DonFerrari]

Normchacho said:

DonFerrari said:

I do agree with you that there is some male, white with good education privilege... but I won't ever feel guilty for something I was born with and didn't had option (although I'm certain I would have choose to be born as I was, perhaps richier), still I think equality is really treating everyone the same.

Just on the rape thing... there are newer studies and researches that show that man being rapped could be the same average or even higher than woman, but the men is even more ashamed to report because it would show they were weak to be rapped by a woman or the notion that a man should be grateful for every sex he get. Of course I won't take that as gospel. But since another research showed that perhaps 90% of the rape reports were lies. I wouldn't be so sure about the rape risk... and in my country you are 9-11x more prone to be killed as a heterossexual man than being gay or woman then I would say we are at a disavantage here more than them.

And that is absolutely a conversation worth having. I'm actually a staunch believer that there are several issues that the public doesn't view in the correct light.

For instance, studies show that 40% of domestic violence victims are men and yet whenever you see anything about domestic violence it always focuses on women.

There are absolutely important misconceptions that are worth talking about. None of them are in the OP.

In Brazil we have "Maria da Penha" Law, it's against domestic violence and we have the female dp... it's very hard to see the law used against an abusive woman, mostly will see the woman as the victim no matter what. But surely when we are talking about extreme violence, kills and "accidents" I would believe that man are usually more prone to be the abuser, but that is related to strenght and hormones, as well as woman would be more psycological abusive (but there are several instances of physical violence).

The OP is on the jokes only, and the humour is a portray of society, when anyone say it's ok to make fun of one group but not of other it's as much a sympton of a sick society as were the steriotypes while they were used as a way to diminish a group. Nowadays I don't see any real issue with targeting any group for jokes as long as you balance them. Even "dark humour" as we call in brazil, with jokes about cancer, death and racist jokes. But that is me.

In Brazil there were cases of black people being sued as racists because they made joke about black people... because there is also a law against racism, that of course is only used if the victm is black because SJWs believe there isn't reverse racism or that black aren't racist against themselves (they will say that is a reflex of the white opression)... and that is in Brazil that there is almost no one that is truly pure african or european descendant, almost all is mixed only the skin tone differ by percentage of the mixture, sun and randomness in genetics (me and my brother would be considered white and black even having the same father and mother).

Normchacho said:

DonFerrari said:

Exactly the point. If it was 8 white people talking shit about a black person it would warrant a 6000 words essay on every magazine about how much prejudice there is in our society and how all white people are racist.

Back to the point of the congressmen... there were a lot of cases in recent past about a left wing saying racist, machist jokes with no repercussion, but if someone that isn't left wing done 1/10 of the joke they would parade against the person. Please don't pretend to be blind.

No, it wouldn't. These are random people on Twitter. Look at the comments on the article about that kids parents being black, or on that Chinese detergent commercial. We're there articles written about the racist things said there? No.

 

There are likely thousands of racist tweets every day about and by all kinds of people.  They do not merit comment.

Well perhaps where you live... but in Brazil is completely normal to see on social network SJWs creating fake accounts to do racist aggresion and then print screen it and put their agenda to push it and it gets traction, but all real cases of notorious people doing the reverse is ignored. I dunno how it happens in your country.

hershel_layton said:
I feel like a dumbass for not including good examples, but there's something I regret for adding in- rape.

It's surprising how little we focus on rape for men. It's a large issue for people in prison and the military.


As for those thinking im butt hurt over jokes and want to laugh at people who are disabled, that's not what I want. Obviously there are some things I'd rather not joke about(rape, disabilities, etc). However, I think some people suddenly become defensive if it's a joke against a trait of their own(gender, race, etc).

Then again, as I said before, jokes aren't an issue. I'd have to say that it becomes an issue when we reach a larger level.

Rape by men on men is considered part of machism by feminists... the real thing they ignore is woman rapeing woman.