Why are we still using discs instead of cartridges?

[zorg1000]

Intrinsic said:

zorg1000 said:

No, the phrase is used too often, Nintendo can be successful without pulling off the near impossible and without becoming a PS/XB triplet.

I never said that 1st party alone is enough but at the same time multiplats have never, ever in the history of Nintendo devices been a major selling factor.

What Nintendo needs is an ecosystem that has a steady flow of quality releases while having appealing hardware and an effective marketing campaign.

I don't know when you started following nintendo, but what you are saying isnt true. 

Back before the PS, nintendo never needed to have a multiplat conversation because well, the only options were them and sega and they both conducted business in a very similar way. Nintendo started losing the third parties in the era of the original PS. Culmulating at the point MGS and FF7 released for the PS.

No console nintendo made from the N64 until the Wii had sold more than 30M consoles in any genration.

Its easy to look back now and say multiplats were never a thing with nintendo but that would just be a flat out lie. The only successful console they made in their new thirdpartyless era wss the wii.... and that tells you all you need to know. And by successful i dont just mean selling consoles at a profit. 

The wiiU failed horribly, and again, its easy to say that happend due to bad marketing and whatnot but again you would be wrong.

Here is how i look at nintendo; simply put, why not both? Nintendo can still do what nintendo does if they have third party games on their platform. That wont stop them from making all those awesome nintendo games will it? But it will at the very least level the playing feild. Having every customer to choose between nintendo and everything else is gonna amount to nothing every single time. But if a customer knows he will get fifa, madden, cod, gta, fallout, assasins creed.....etc on his nintendo along side their exclusives it makes for a much easier pill to swallow. 

You and some others make it sound like what the HD twins do is something bad, the way i see it, is that nintendo should at least do that much alomgsiide everything else that they may want to do.

Now you may have a problem with that phrase, but thats literally what nintendo is positioning thrmsleves to do again. Barring some sort of really great innovative feat, the NX will fail if GTA6/COD/RDR/Fallout/Oblivion/BF/Fifa/Madden.....etc is not on it. It will fail. UNLESS, as you hate to hear, they do something just quite extraodinary (again)

I hope i am wrong. 

3rd party support=/=multiplats

NES & SNES had great 3rd party support but how many of the big 3rd party games on them were multiplat? What i said holds true, multiplats have never been a major selling force for any Nintendo device ever.

Lets look at Gamecube which had a large amount of multiplats, it had Madden, FIFA, NBA Live, NCAA, 2K Sports, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty, Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, Rainbow Six, Spider Man, X-Men, Soul Calibur, Prince of Persia, Tony Hawk, Tiger Woods, Need for Speed, James Bond, Hitman, Spyro, Crash, Sims, Dragon Ball Z, Naruto, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, Lego, True Crime, SSX, NBA/NFL Street, Fight Night, WWE, The Matrix, Timesplitters, Mortal Kombat, Turok, Burnout, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Batman, Star Wars, Def Jam, Simpsons, King Kong, Ninja Turtles, Rayman, Bloodrayne, Tomb Raider, BMX, and a ton of games based on kids movies/shows.

All of these multiplats did little to nothing for Gamecube, it barely sold 20 million and was only $99 within 2 years of its life.

I have never said what Sony/MS do is bad, just that emulating them will not net Nintendo the same results. Simply having multiplatform support will not cause the PS/XB audience to switch over. That however doesnt mean Nintendo should go out of their way to avoid multiplats, just that they cant make that the lead priority.

The reason i have a problem with the phrase is because it is meant for things that are seemingly impossible, not just difficult. That is what i mean by it being used to loosely.

Nintendo needs to return to the fundamentals that made NES, GB, DS, Wii so successful which was appealing hardware with steady flows of quality & exclusive software that appealed to many different demographics along with strong, effective marketing at consumer friendly prices.

Will that be hard to pull off? Yes, they will have to work their butts off to accomplish it but is it nearly impossible? Not even close.