Government to log every phone call, email and text(UK)

[Dogs Rule]

twesterm said:

Dogs Rule said:

twesterm said:

 

What liberty is being taken away? Does it really matter that someone is monitoring my phone calls? I promise you that don't care that you went out drinking last weekend and shoplifted a twinkie.

 

 

Like I said, again, if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't care.

 

 

The right to privacy is considered to be a civil liberty in many jurisdictions. It is in Canada.

@ yellow comment:

That is not the way your constitution is set up, nor is Canada's Charter of rights and freedoms. Civil liberties, such as the right against unreasonable search and seizure,were not conceived as technicalities to get the guilty acquitted. They are there to protect people who have "nothing to hide" from being searched for no reason, even if it means some evidence will have to be excluded in the trial of a guilty person.

 See, I can understand your second point if the searches caused you any actual disconvenience but it (theoretically) should be completely transparent.

Would you rather not have your phone tapped or have a terrorist attack here hundred of people killed stopped?  Would you rather have your emails secret or stop a child molester from gaining another victim? 

Obviously it is best to prevent crimes, but it should not be at the expense of the rights of the innocent. That is what your founding fathers envisioned, and while I do not believe a constitution should not be adapted with time, it should be adapted to give people more liberties, not take them away.

I would not say it to the victims of the scenarios you mentionned, but yes I do perfer the certainty of enjoying liberties rather than the possibility that giving away my rights will prevent an event which may or may not have happened either way. And if I really had to say it to their faces, I would.

They can get away with this in the U.K. because people are still subjects to the monarchy.