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Swordmasterman on 28 May 2016
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GribbleGrunger said:
Bryank75 said:

 

I don't want to derail th thread but I need to reply here...

I think it will be extremely difficult for Xbox to increase market share from now on... all games from PS4 on are going to be forward compatible as well as PSVR and peripherals. All social, trophies and subscriptions go forward also.

Next if we look at exclusives and first party studios, there is no contest especially with Xbox exclusives going to PC from now on....

Funny that you mentioned that people had forgotten about the PR disaster of 2013 because I am still seeing these issues with Xbox, they just closed down several studios, didn't sell the studio cause they wanted the IP and did not allow non-white male on the cover of their game..... I doubt the drm is forgotten and if they got the chance it would certainly be implimented. 

That is my take on it anyway. 

PSNeo also has a year headstart and there could be another PS soon after Xbox scorpio launches if power is an issue but I don't think anyone will go for scorpio except the xbox faithful. 

 

I suspect sales in this thread over the coming weeks and months will reflect this.

I'm not going to respond to the bulk of your post because I agree with every word. I agree with the bolded too but for me, that's the most significant factor. IF (key word there) indeed the PSNeo launches a year ahead of the Scorpio then MS will be forever playing catch up because Sony are set to break the traditional format for console launches and move from 'cycles' to 'versions'. This means there are NO set times that we can expect another iteration and the market is at the mercy of Sony completely. For instance, if MS release the Scordio next Christmas then what Sony will do is release yet another iteration of the PS4 early 2018 leaving MS having to either wait yet another year or launch another iteration of their console only a few months later, which won't go down well with their hardcore audiences. Sony will only do that though if the market shows a significant drop in PS4 sales. If the Scorpio doesn't affect the sales of the PS4 then they'll wait longer. I think the main difference in the two companies is MS attempt to slow sales of their competition while Sony just concentrate on sustaining a business plan.

I'll tell you what's happened here: Last year Sony said they would consider iterations of the PS4 but there was no suggestion they would do it short term. MS weren't convinced they would do it earlier rather than later but then they got wind of the Neo rumours (they would have heard from devs much earlier than the media). Their gut reaction was to suggest they were doing something similar. They realised then that their market share was already shrinking and rumours of iterations would slow their sales down further and they're not in the same position as Sony. They were at stalemate with the strategy, so they leaked information of a more powerful console for next year in the hope to prevent even more XB owners from moving over to the PS4.

Do you think that Sony will get hid of the Generation thing ?, so how it would work ?, The new models need to play  previous models's games and the first models need to play the next model's games so it would mean Infinite support for the original PS4 and  Xbox One ?.