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Akeos said:
setsunatenshi said:

that's the first time anyone mentioned those numbers. it's going to be polaris based, so it should have something between 36 / 40 CUs (around double the CUs on the current system) plus a frequency increase from 1.6 GHz to 2.something GHz if they indeed remain on the Jaguar. Some time ago there were rumors Sony was undecided on the processor, it would depend on the price they could target... 400$ upgraded Jaguar, 500$ something else.

My suspicion is if the reported 5.x TFLOPS on the new Xbox will be true then they might go for the 500$ upgrade and throw in a ZEN CPU which would be beast.

so no... in any case the 2.4 TFLOPS is a poor estimate

 

 

Polaris have new cores,  intégred it and say to studios " don't use its news fonctions, use it like ps4 graphique cores "...  Because yours games must run on ps4 ! I can't imagine that... 

For me,  Sony could overclocking ps4 (30%) for better framerate and resolution,  probably VR ready... And juste have to wait Microsoft show his cards and react with a PS5... 

Microsoft have dollars,  can do prices wars

Sony don't need remplace ps4,  juste adapted it to VR

Put polaris without zen cores will be an error, notably if xboxone Scorpio existing...

Ps4 néo is a new ps4..  Not ps4.5... 

sorry, but i think you're confusing cores with compute units (CUs). currently the APU inside the ps4 has 18 CUs (again, compute units) active, while the Xbox 1 has 12 CUs. The die shrink to 14nm basically allows the APU to have anything between 36/40 CUs, which will probably be the case for both new APUs. Also, it has been pretty much confirmed by now that all games coming out from October on must have a Neo mode available as well as a vanilla mode for the original system.

So unless you have specific sources to contradict all the pretty much confirmed parts of the rumor, you should realize that this 30% number you came up with is just that... something you came up with, having no basis in reality.

It's not part of the discussion what Sony needs or needs not do. It doesn't matter what amount of money MS has or doesn't have. Those are separate discussions.