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Netyaroze on 28 May 2016
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LMU Uncle Alfred said:

Netyaroze said:

 We made big progress in the past few years. Googles Deep Mind won in a creative game against the best person. This game has more possible moves then atoms in the universe so computing power alone will not help you. Thinking out of the Box is necessary to win. We made big progress understanding the brain a better in the past years and general AI might not be so far out. People like Elon Musk mentioned their biggest concern is AI. I think maybe 30 years max until AI has Human like intelligence. 

Check whats going on right now the AI field is brimming with money and new discoveries. Its just a matter of time and I am sure in our lifetime there will be a software that will pass the touring test.

Autonomous Cars. Drone Delievery, VR, Printing Organs. Fully Electric Cars. Carbon Nanotubes , 3D Printers. Robots that can  make a stroll through forests on 2 legs. In 2020 the 10 Billion Iter Fusion Reactor will go online in France. If I compare it to the things we were promised in the 1990 and what actually came true. ( we got way way more than any of us has expected)  the changes that are coming soon, will be even more unbelievable.  

I cant stress enough how much life has changed in the past 20 years. And everything is pointing to even bigger and faster changes ahead. Who expected fully automatic cars in 2020 ? Who expected VR , who expected 3D Printers ? And once silicon substrate for chips are maxed out we might move to carbon nanotubes which will give us 200 GHZ processors.

A Wave off new technology will hit us in the next 2 decades and change life fundamentally. The  Changes are speeding up.  Society will also have to adapt.

At some point we will just not work in the traditional sense. As technology will provide for everyone and will be able to maintain itself. What will happen after this is absolutely unpredictable. Aslong as the progress keeps up like this or even accelarates the consequences could be anything really.  

German researchers design robots to feel pain:

http://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/robotics-software/researchers-teaching-robots-to-feel-and-react-to-pain

Combine this with Atlas from Boston dynamics and some Deep Mind like Cloud based intelligence and add 30 years development to it and there you have robots that can do anything.

 

@Bolded.  That's exactly what computing power is all about: Increasing speed and memory for pre programmed possibilities.  You can always increase it more and more.  It's just difficult to wrap one's head around how many atoms there are in the universe..but we have systems that can obviously produce such numbers.  This isn't about intelligence though.  There's more to the brain than just intelligence or creativity.  There's pain, growing, emotions and of course the big one that probably won't be replaced by robots: Empathy.  

Do you think you can get empathy or more importantly get people of all kinds to empathize with a robot?  People will want this when ordering from McDonalds.  The world is getting more and more isolated but there are still call center jobs for instance for people that need to remember such skills.  A large part of those jobs aren't just technical ability; it's selling comfort.

 no we do not have systems that come even close to this kind of computing power. just simple decryption can take the fastest computer thousands of years. deep mind won by studying human games and applying creativ thinking. read up on it. its impossible to calculate every outcome in this game. the capacities needed is trillions (just a place holder actually we dont have words for it) times higher than all computing power on earth. there is trillions ocf atoms in a grain of sand. imagine all planets and suns wich are sextillions. this game was chosen to prove computer ai evolved.

I think people will be able to emphasize with an R2D2 like robot more than with other random people. I can only speak for myself. The Human interaction is not the reason why I go to Mc Donalds. I do not feel isolated and I could not careless about emphaty from a McDonalds worker. I really really Doubt people care if the food is prepared by a Human they can not even see in the back of the restaurant. Actually its more sanitary if robots prepare the food. And to be honest a always friendly robot might also be the better cashier.