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JEMC said:

Alby_da_Wolf said:

Excellent news on CPUs and I wouldn't worry about Polaris, we already knew Vega was going to be the high-end GPU, while in the mid-range a die-shrink and so a significant reduction of production costs and power consumption was probably more important, not to mention that there is a not stellar, but still very nice performance boost too compared to current Radeons, with only the NVidia GTX 1080 beating Polaris, but at cost of a much higher power consumption, and most probably higher retail price and production costs too, making NVidia less attractive for the average user, and when Vega will be launched, for the power users too.
All these news, and Polaris 10 and 11 segments bode very well for the next gens of APUs too, most probably Zen-Polaris APUs will be more than enough for basic gaming PCs, and adding a discrete GPU with crossfire, on well designed mobos, obviously, they could become very fine high-end ones too.

 

I won't comment on the CPU side because while Zen looks very good, it wouldn't be the first time that AMD overestimates its processors.

On the GPU side, you fail to mention the 1070 which, at $379 and apparently performing a bit better than Titan X/980Ti, will be the card that many will lose to buy. Unless the Polaris 10 cards are less than $300 (and I don't mean $1 less...), AMD will have a difficult time selling their card to anyone with an HD 7970/ GTX 770 or higher card.

After all, Polaris 10 will only bring a bit more performance than the current R9 290/390 and GTX 970 cards, and those cards can be found on sale at $300 and less.

Maybe their rumored new logo will help

Surely smaller process and higher yield will help pricing it competitively, while lower power requirement, besides requiring less bulky and less expensive cooling and so helping keeping costs low too, should also help saving a little on total system price, requiring a less powerful and expensive PSU, and also on the user's electricity bill. The typical AMD user will find all this attractive, and if peformances will be greater than the 1070, adding all the other benefits could persuade also "neutral" users, leaving only die-hard NVidia fans preferring the 1070.
About real world performances, let's just hope they won't fall too far behind.