which console will be more powerful PS4 Neo or Xboxone 2?

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Soundwave said:

Intrinsic said:

All true, but thats also the problem. You arent really looking at the whole picture.

The R9 fury is based on an established, perfected and outgoing 28nm process. Whatever are in these new boxes are going to be on the curremt 16nm finfet process. By the time the XB1.5 is coming, that fabrication process is still going to be problematic. Yeilds will be a lot lower than what you can get with a 28 nm wafer. Lower yeilds means higher costs. 

Other things to consider are the CPU, memory, PSU, cooler....etc. If the GPU alome costs $300-$350, what do you think eveeything else will cost? You will need a cpu beefy enough to be paired wotj such a GPU. That costs money. You will need ram fast enough to be paired with such a setup. Again, money. A PSU powerful enough to provide power to all that. Again money. A cooling system that gaurantees they dont have another RROD on their hands. 

All that will put such a console well over the $600/$700 mark. And i don't see MS biting $200 in losses on every box sold to get the price down to $400/$500. Especially when the PS4neo could end up costing no more than $400. 

I'm not saying the XB1+ won't be significantly more powerful. Im just saying i dont seen anyway that its possible for it to have a GPU thats 6TF. Its just not possible. 

If it has even a vanilla Polaris 10, that's a 5.5 TFLOP processor at 14nm which supposedly going to be in the $300 *retail* price range. 

http://techfrag.com/2016/05/15/amd-polaris-gpu-specs-leaked/

6 TFLOPS I don't think is going to be even terribly difficult for MS. Polaris tech will make this fairly easy. 

R9 Fury is going to be quite dated very soon using that as the benchmark is irrelevant, no chance MS uses that instead of the newer Polaris line. 

PS4 Neo will have polaris too