which console will be more powerful PS4 Neo or Xboxone 2?

[Intrinsic]

CosmicSex said:

Intrinsic said:
People need to get this straight.

The PS4 "GPU" is 18CUs @1.8+TF.
PS4k "GPU" 36CUs @ 4.1TF (more compute units and higher clock)

XB1 GPU is 12CUs @ 1.2+TF

If the XB1.5 GPU is going to be 6TF it would need to be packing 56 compute units!!!!!!

the ONLY card AMD has that has that many compute units is the R9 Fury. And that "GPU" costs $550.

$550. And we have not even started talking about the CPU.

I think some people need to get a little realistic.

This whole thing is based on speculation.   Kinda give credence to Phils 'creative' tweet. 

And why the hell doesn't Nintendo get to participate in this convo?

Yes its based on speculation  and rumours. So all we are debating is on the viability of said rumours.

My point still stands tho, even if Phil said what he said, it doesn't take a lot of work to look at whats out there and know whats possible or not possible.

We know they are using AMD. We  know what AMD has bow and what they hsve coming. We know hoe much these things cost. We know whats possible with a finfet fabrication process. We know about DDR4/HBM/HBM2 ram and what they all cost. We know how much a console will typically cost. We know that MS/Sony/Nintendo are in competetion with eachother. We know how much console buyers are typi ally willing to spend on a console.

We basically know enough to make very educated guesses. Even if its by ommission. 

Even with a 16nm process. A 56CU GPU will still cost well over $300. And have a power draw of well over 180W. And thats just talking GPU. Throw a CPU in there thats powerful enough not to be a bottleneck and power consumption goes up to over 300W when you consider every other component. That much power means a bigher box to accomodate for much better cooling. All that equates to a very expensive console. At least over $600. And MS is trying to compete with somwthing that could very well cost as little as $350/$400???? Naaaarrrrr...... not gonna happen.

And why nintendo isnt in this cameo, is cause as rumours suggest (which is what we are debating on) the NX is going to be around as powerful as the current XB1. So unless we are going to speculate on an NX spec sheet that doesnt even exist from the existing rumors, there isnt a need to bring them into this conversation.