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hershel_layton said:
barneystinson69 said:

Oh really? Should we also open our doors to anyone and not worry about the consequences at all? Not everything can just be based on emotion, you need logic. Thats what I hate about modern politics, EVERYTHING is about emotion. Its not realistic to allow millions in, when millions are always waiting. The reason this crisis started is because of Germany and their policy of "open gates". Otherwise, we wouldn't see 1000s of people drowning trying to illegally enter Europe.

I love how you defend America as Mr.perfect country, but then counterattack his criticism with "we can't use our emotions". I'd have to say that you and others have used their emotions concerning the situation. Of course, it's not as though you're a bad person for doing so. This situation does cause a lot of people to feel irritated at themselves and others.

 

Also, if you're going to bash on the Middle East, go ahead, I don't care. But don't go around calling Middle Easterners barbarians when the West has a history of screwing around with the area.

 

I'd have to say that the crisis started way before Germany's open door policy. It was probably around the end of WWI when all of this chaos began to occur. Add in with Israel being randomly inserted, western countries interfering in the Middle East for no reason, destabilizing countries, overthrowing governments, the list goes on. I mean, it's as though problems were trying to be made in the first place.

I have nothing wrong with Israel, but when you randomly put people in a place and kick out others, that isn't going to cope well with others. And as for the Middle East, I have to say that you're being a bit impetuous to believe they're the cause for all of this. Bad judgement from external areas contributed to the situation to consider them a major role in all these issues. Add in the extremists who took advantage and spread like rats, and you've now got a nearly uncontrollable situation.

 

I'm sure the entire world is biting their fingers, waiting to see how this will play out. The entire Middle East is like a playground to see how living in a Fallout-like world will be like. Gaza and Syria will be inhabitable by...say, 2025 if they're lucky(?) 

What do you think is a valid solution though? Do we simply send them back and allow them to die? Or do we do something else? I don't think any of your posts explained clearly what your ideas are.

Let me ask you. Migrants have already been pouring into Europe for decade's, and its still happening today. Fact is, the world cannot support these people forever. These countries are ruined because of themselves and their people, no one else. People use the west as a delusion to this fact, when in fact we've done lots to help. Tell me, would the middle east be peaceful if America didn't intervene? Would their people have democracy, rights, and much more if the west didn't come in? 

Oh and BTW I'm not defending America at all, I'm telling everyone that Europe isn't at fault ;)



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