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Ljink96 on 25 May 2016
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ohmylanta1003 said:
Ljink96 said:

I also said that but they wouldn't go to those 60K workers. And you'd have to be trained or educated. Something that doesn't take  a few weeks to do. Soon robots will do everything and WALL-E will come to pass. We'll be so lazy, Americans are already lazy enough, but we'll become more lazy. Once the middle class is wiped out and a revolt happens, it won't end up too well I'm thinking. The gradient of poverty to wealth will diminish and there will only be poor or rich. Many investors are saying this including owner of Berkshire Hathaway and billionaire, Warren Buffet.

 

ALL 60K OF THEM? I doubt all of them wanted out. The conditions are poor yes. But for some, this was their only way of income. It's greed. Why can't people see the underlying reason behind all of this? True, technology is supposed to make lives easier but once the human contact is taken out of that equation...what's the use? Yes, people did commit suicide, I know the backstory of Foxconn but this reaches far beyond Foxconn. If China is doing it then believe me the US isn't far behind and that my friend will be hell on earth.

You think Carrier moving its jobs from Indiana to Mexico caused a mess, just wait for the Robots to take over. The ratio from robot to human won't be the same. You think they'll install 60K robots? Are you insane? No, they're gonna install a few hundred to do what 60K people could do. The Cotton Gin is a prime example of this. What used to take hundreds of people to do, now took 1 machine and one operator. Maybe 2 but you get the point. That's going to be 100 robots that do work of 60,000 people. You can't hire 60,000 people to do matinence work on 100 robots. And that's just China. If America goes robot crazy... God help us all.

You're being silly. Factories should attempt to replace humans that are performing mundane tasks with robots as much as they can. They've been doing it for fucking decades. Why is this any different? We've been automating processes forever. This is just more automation. There's nothing wrong with any of this. And I'm not saying Foxconn should offer jobs to these 60,000 people. Most of them will lose their job, and that's okay. That's life, that's the economy, that's progression.

But why continue? Things have gotten better...for higher ups and that's about it. I didn't say there's nothing wrong with progression. Please find the sentence where I claimed such a stupid claim. Nothing is wrong with anything for a while but continue to do it and eventually problems show up. Yeah you can keep "progressing" but there's a point where going forwards is actually going backwards. That's life, that's the economy...because of silly things like this that continue to go on. It didn't have to happen this way. FIrst you say the workers wanted out then you say that's life...which one? Sure there's nothing wrong with using oil and gas and burning fossil fuels...for a while but now we have global warming, parts of the world completely melting. It isn't magic, it's science. There's a recation to every decision we make.

We may not see it immediately, because of course that's human nature. Worry when it gets bad, not beforehand. I think over the long term. this is just the beginning, automation is just the beginning. Soon they'll make robots that fix the robots too won't they? That's progression after all, then there will be no workers at all. Oh, then there will be robots that work on those robots that work on those robots right? Progression of course! But where are the humans? Losing their purpose? We need to stick together as a race. You may think I'm going overboard here and to an extent I am, but many predictions were made in many pieces of literature and many of them have come to pass. Robots taking over everything may seem like a silly fiction book but if we continue on this path, this is exactly what will happen in terms of employment. And the rich will continue to get richer and the poor will be poorer. You're looking too small, through only one viewpoint and it isn't that simple. Foxconn is only the tip of the iceberg.