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Jpcc86 said:
binary solo said:
I think it has to be more complicated than gender as a social construct. I know plenty of women who are very "male-like" in what they do, how they dress and how they look. But they still identify as being a woman. Mostly they are lesbian. They self identify as a lesbian woman, they do not view themselves as a heterosexual man stuck in an anatomically woman's body.

Sure, but sexuality - or sexual orientation - and gender are different things. Gender is about who you are and sexuality about who you are attracted to. 

Correct. They are separate things. But the archetypal "butch lesbian" is kind of proof against the assertion that a trans person is simply someone who identifies with gender sterotypes and there for must think "Oh so that must mean I should be of the opposite sex, not the sex I was born as". The main point is that there's more to trans psychology than not feeling like you fit the gender social stereotypes. For instance there are women and men who cross dress, and who look and behave in ways that are more associated with the opposite gender yet who still see themselves as being the sex they were born as. We have one pretty well known lawyer who likes to wear dresses, but he still identifies as a man. He's just a man who likes to wear dresses.



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