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Chazore said:
CosmicSex said:

I think you misunderstand what I am saying.  There is a difference between hard work and complete optomization in the case of Uncharted 4.  I am not saying that the guys who seek to optomize PC aren't working hard.s  Of course they are and it does pay off.  What I am saying is that what it would take to optomize most sbig games on the level of what was done for the PS4 would be so time consuming that it is actually unecessary.  Especially since PC graphics cards shave enough raw horsepower to get there without those kind of optomizations.    What I am saying is that it would be nearly impossible for even Naughty Dog to optomize PC hardware to the fullest in the way that that they can on a closed platform like the PS4.  For one, they don't have the low level access on PC like they do on PS4 and even if they did, the number of configurations would drive them batshit crazy.  Fortunatly as I stated for many times, this isn't necessary on performance and enthusiast class rigs because they can bank on raw power.  

 

TLDR:  There is no reason do optomize PC the way Naughty Dog optomized the PS4.  And just because no one doest that on PC doesn't mean they aren't hard workers. 

I get all that but what is the > advantage here?, if it's not the code or the hardware then what is it?.

Graphics cards dish out raw horsepower but are we then going to say "they cost too much" to nerf that pro or go with all games not being optimized on PC along with being buggy?, where are the pros to the other side?.

Okay I see what you are saying.  Its my fault because when I said optomize, I don't mean it in the sense that PC games don't need to be optomized.  Of course they do and of course they can be.  I meant on the level of what ND did with Uncharted. 

To answer your question the advantage that ND has is the luxuary of being able to focus on one set of hardware.  Its really just that.  And thats not to say that they are brillant because they are, but I seriously doubt it would be possible to reproduce this on a wide range of hardware.  The reason why I believe this is because they were able to exploit the PS4 in a way that they couldn't do on PC.  After all, ICE team is ND.   

People forget this. Yes, its a lot of hard work, but when you have a freaking detailed map of the sytem, and you can build your own low level tools just for that system, its hard to imagine that they would be able to do that on PC without using PCs ace in the hole which is raw power and even then it would probably take a lot longer to produce.