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WolfpackN64 said:
barneystinson69 said:

Well if it hadn't been the US who intervened in Afganistan, would it be better off today? I mean the soviet's invaded the country and planned to do god know what (it was before I was even born, so I don't know much about details). And since they collapsed just a few years later, do we really want to know what could've happened there? And what exactly do you mean by self-serving interventions by NATO? Look, it was their people that decided to start these civil wars and overthrow their leaders, not ours. Yes, the US supported it because these regimes weren't democracy's. It doesn't mean they started the crisis.

The communist government in Afghanistan was the legitimate government then. The USSR did NOT invade. The USSR intervened because the Afghan government asked. The US just wanted to disrupt a potential expansion of Communism.

Alright, so you clearly know more than I in case. But when the soviet union collapsed, what do you think would happen to Afganistan? You don't have to guess to realize it would probably result in a civil-war, and likely a coup. Now thats speculation, and that never happened. So I'll take your side in this case, but this was over 30 years ago, so clearly any problems from then have long been gone or have changed. And Afganistan and Iraq don't make up the entire middle east (in fact politically, Afganistan isn't even considered to be part of it). I would blame Iran, Saudi-Arabia, and Turkey for much of the destabilization in the region today. 



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