| Mazzy said: Not sure what you're trying to say here. You largely agree that all the games mentioned either outsold, or were damn close (and would have outsold had they been exclusive to PS4) to Uncharted 4. You said Uncharted 4 was one of the top 5 debuts this gen, which was objectively wrong. And that's even comparing UC4 to only the PS4 version of multiplats, which already weighs the scale heavily in UC4's favor. |
Left the party and arrived with it already being over :P Anyways, I'll make one last point.
Your first paragraph doesn't make sense and also demonstrates how you instantly forgot your previous comments. For instance, let's look at a snippet of this one.
| Mazzy said: I can already name five better performing games this gen: GTAV, Battlefront, Watch_Dogs, Arkham Knight, FIFA, CoD AW, CoD BO3, Destiny, The Division, Fallout 4. And those are just PS4 sales. |
Now, let us recap the PS4 sales numbers Primethius provided.
UC4: 192K
Watch Dogs: 190K
Arkham Knight: 147.4K
Destiny: 184K
Battlefront: 191.75K
Division: Definitely less than 192K because the PS4:XB1 split is very close
What Primethius proved that UC4 sold more than the PS4 versions of these five multiplats. You may be right that UC4 is not one of the Top 5 debuts. However, you were wrong on 5/9 multiplats you mentioned.
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You then say to just ignore all the red flags regarding sales and say that acknowleding these issues, and questioning the Amazon price slashes, lacklustre LE bundle sales, and mediocre sales compared to other big AAA exclusives is conjecture? If you think not having every bit of sales data at our disposal means we can't have a meaningful discussion, then we're all guilty of conjecture. |
This is a strawman fallacy. As I already mentioned, only Amazon is making these price reductions and it only comprises of 5% of the US marketshare. I also provided links to four other retailers that show UC4 is still full price. Why have you not addressed this? What do you mean by lacklustre LE bundle sales? How did you come to that conclusion, especially with a subjective statement. Do you have numbers for that? Is the LE bundle not that limited and if so, show us. In addition, you did not show how UC4 sales are mediocre compared to other big AAA exclusives. This is another instance of you just telling, but not showing.
Your closing sentence is also deeply flawed, as it insinuates that all conjectures are equal. As CGI has claried, there is nothing wrong with conjecture as long as you can back it up with evidence. However, you did not do this and the gap between your and Primethius's posts is absolutely drastic. You just follow up with subjective statement after subjective statement. You dismiss other people's comments as 'objectively false' without showing how.
