Amazon U.S. May bestsellers and general Amazon-based discussion

[Zanten]

Mazzy said:

Zanten said:
Well, bright side we at least know he isn't interested in having an actual discussion. xP I didn't think it would be that easy to draw him out, actually. o_o

I've grown bored of the same circular argumentz. I'll say again, I never said Uncharted 4 sales were bad in any way, it's just that a variety of factors (outlined in numerous previous posts) lead me to believe that Sony may have been expecting more and, in that context, it could be argued that it failed to meet expectations.

We'll agree to disagree and wait until we get more numbers. May NPD should be interesting.

As I said, the argument itself I'm on the fence. When it comes to retailer-specific sales, it's difficult to tell if the problem is the size of the 'demand pie' itself, or rather whether retailers running the sales don't feel they're getting a big enough piece. Wal-Mart also appears to have a sale going on, but Best Buy and Gamestop do not, and as a Canadian I don't really know what other major U.S. retailers I should look at. =P While Sony did delay the game two extra weeks specifically to increase supply- suggesting they might have erred on the 'overstocked' side rather than risk supply not meeting demand like Ratchet and Clank anecdotally did- it's impossible to say at this time if they similarly increased the marketing push. It could be the game still exceeded their projections from back in 2015, but hasn't met the surplus of supply they spent an extra half month cranking out. Too early to tell, and without information on Sony's expectations, all that can be said with any certainty is certain regions are tracking very well when held in the context of other exclusives, as well as prior Uncharted games.

As you said, NPD will be interesting, and at least fill in more on the sales front. But at this point, it would appear that sales will only truly bomb if Sony pulls what Square Enix does, and inflates their expectations beyond anything remotely reasonable. And maybe they did; if they did, we'll probably never know, as they'll never come out and say 'Yeah, our game flopped.' But there's nothing solid showing it yet, so we might as well at least celebrate the gains the installment has made compared to its predecessors, as well as compared to other exclusive titles.

My criticism was specifically addressing that, bored as you may be getting of the circular arguments, if you aren't precise and consistent with them, you end up driving away any actual discussion. :/ If you make a statement without providing an immediately accessible path to that information, )you know this site has private messages, right? Avoids spam concerns right there) and someone does their homework and calls you on it as false, best attitude is always 'Oops! Yeah, sorry bout that. =D Touche' rather than 'Pffffft don't you split the same hairs I already split myself!'