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Mazzy said:
Primethius said:
What's the standard even being used to discount the sales success of UC? That Sony hasnt released PR yet?

Or are you just assuming that Sony expected the title to do prime Halo numbers solely based off nothing but your own assumptions and hunches?

Please read my previous posts thanks :)

I've reiterated it many times now. I've reiterated the context in which it could be considered a success, I've reiterated the context in which it could be considered a disappointment that failed to meet expectations, I've reiterated that I've seen and taken into account sales numbers and Amazon chart rankings, I've reiterated that Uncharted 4 had a marketing push above and beyond any previous Uncharted game or even any exclusive game in recent memory (largest in PlayStation history),  I've reitereated factors such as lack of PR, price slashes on multiple major retailers, very low ranking of LE UC4 console in Amazon charts (I've reiterated that I understand it's a LE premium console which is why I've cut it some slack), and tepid reaction and splash from the game in media as factors for why it could be regarded as failing to meet expectations, and I've reiterated that I would like to wait for further sales numbers and budgets to make further analyses regarding the success of Uncharted 4 in terms of software and moving hardware.

If you disagree, you're free to, and please point which areas you disagree with and why that is your stance. But I believe looking at things from a different perspective and a different context than "It outsold Uncharted 3 first week. It's a success. Pack it up guys" is important. 

 

Let me ask you a few questions:

Aside from Amazon, what other retailers has it been discounted at? I don't see any in the US. The $49 price is for Amazon Prime users and they get a 20% discount on games anyways.

 

As for UK sales, you are arguing under the assumption that it might not have met Sony expectations without any proof to back it up. If you actually compare the UC4 numbers to other titles released, it has had one of the highest debuts this generation for a single platform outside of the big hitters like CoD.

 

So, I'm sure you can continue to hand wave quite possibly everything away but your just operating on assumptions so far. 

Edit: I checked the data I have, only Fallout 4 and CoD this gen seem to have higher single platform (PS4 only) debuts then UC4. So unless titles like Battlefront and the plethora of other multiplatform titles are failures, I'm not sure how UC4 can be considered such.